Cross-Race - Family History & Genealogy Message Board

MIXED RACE/CREOLES A MIXTURE OF WHAT?

ANGELA4BELL — 27 Oct 2008 12:08:29 GMT

MY FAMILY HISTORY ARE A MIXTURE OF FRENCH, AFRICAN-AMERICAN, IRISH, INDIANS, WHITE AND POSSIBLY SPANISH. MY QUESTION IS WHAT ARE CREOLES A MIXTURE OF?

Jeremiah W. Myers 1809-1894 and Mary Ann Harper 1817-1904

BNeson — 31 Oct 2008 6:06:33 GMT

My GGgrandparents were Jeremiah W. Myers 1809-1894 born near Baltimore, MD and Mary Ann Harper 1817-1904 born VA. His father was Phillip b 1763 MD. Jeremiah's brothers were John m Sarah Pearson, Thomas m Harriet Harden, and Phillip Wilkes Jr [born Faurquier Co, VA or New Market, MD 1805] m Joanna Spacy. All moved to the Barnesville, Belmont Co, OH area and Jeremiah later owned a farm in Chesterhill. I am looking for more info on them and their ancestors. Their children married Norman, Male, Mayle, Stonaker, Lett, Dickinson, Norris, etc. These are mixed race families.

Native American/English families: Ellis, Mathews, Turner, Carter, Palmer

Julie_Sandland — 14 May 2005 2:13:35 GMT

Hi,
We have uncovered info. that several of our allied families are of mixed race.
JABEZ STEPHEN ELLIS was b. 1830 Saratoga, New York. His mother, SARAH, was b. England 1790 and was kidnapped during an Indian raid. She had Jabez and sister ANN ELLIS TOMLINSON in 1828.
The family is next found in Grant, Wisconsin in 1850. I suspect they were of Oneida heritage, and may have relocated with others from the tribe in Wisconsin. Ann and her brother returned to New York throughout the years to visit family.
These families are all related to Ellis and may also be of mixed race: Mathews, Carter, Turner, Palmer, Tomlinson.
Does anyone have any of these?
Thanks
Julie S.

3 Matthews/MATHIS sisters, married Native American men

widofox — 23 Jun 2007 7:01:50 GMT

I have 3 Matthews/MATHIS sisters,born 1825 - 1835,in Ga., that married Native American men. First names of these sisters unknown, names of husbands unknown, dates & places of marriages also unknown. The last place these girls show is 1840 Cass Co.GA, with father WM.MATTHEWS and siblings. These girls had brothers William H.(born1818,Ga. wifes name Susan Russell) and John R.(born 1821,GA. wifes name Margaret Black)These girls were wrongfully disowned by the father for the marriages. Possible names for these girls could be,ANN,MARY,MARTHA,ISABEL,RACHEL,JANE,ALICE or VIRGINIA, as the brothers named daughters these. Any info on the above sisters will be greatly appreciated, as we are having a very hard time finding anything on them. Help! Thanks

Black Norwegians

nick — 30 Oct 2005 12:32:36 GMT

Some of my ancestors are Black Norwegians. They are a group of people who came to America obviously from Norway, but they had strikingly dark skin and peculiar facial features unlike anyone from the caucazoid race. They appear to be native americans. In fact, they were not served drinks in bars in wisconsin because every bartender believed them to be native americans. Has anyone else heard of the black norwegians?

Nancy Richard

macallo — 23 Mar 2006 3:01:30 GMT

Nancy was my slave gg-grandmother of African/Indian descent (Creek or Seminole tribe). Born Nov. 1824 in So Carolina. Was moved to farm in Macon, GA until about age 38, then relocated to Lake City, FL until her death (no verif. of the date). Looking for info on her family in So Carolina, i.e. exactly which tribe, and her parents names. Her husband was Asa Richard, born 1817. She is listed on Georgia 1850 slave schedule as "Nancy Richard" so she had to have married Asa before leaving SC. She gave birth to my ggrandfather, Thomas Sherman in 1846. Any info appreciated. Email me at calloway_marjorie@yahoo.com.

Comb/Lewis; Spotsylvania Co., VA

LoisMasters63 — 31 Jan 2006 8:16:28 GMT

Thomas Combs (a free black) who died in 1844 or 1845 in Spotsylvania Co., Va married Aggie Lewis (a mulatto) who was born before 1803 or 1809 and was John Acors who was born about 1782 stated in 1852 "When Aggy was born, I was nearly grown." Aggie Lewis was, by depositions in 1852, identified as the daughter of Molly Lewis (a white, daughter of Joel Lewis) and slave. Aggy Lewis died Feb 1852.

Thomas Combs and Aggie Lewis had four children: George Combs, Martha Combs, Nancy Combs and Tuerman Combs.

Source: Molly Lewis Estate- 1852: Spotsylvania Co., Va - Court Case

THADDEUS WHITE & DER LING YU

cross131 — 22 May 2002 4:44:26 GMT

Hi, I'm trying to find out about a woman called Der Ling (Te Ling) Yu who married an American, Thaddeus C White, in 190. They met in Shanghai in 1905/1906 and I think they emigrated back to the States - any news on where they settled/descendants etc?

Thanks

Native Americans-RAWLS, DEANS, CALDWELL, WALKER, HILLHOUSE, CARSON

dorthy_caldwell — 24 May 2004 1:28:28 GMT

I am looking for Native American ancesters mixed with the families listed above.
Supposed Apache,Cherokee,etc. In the central Texas area. Mostly McCulloch County.
DORTHY HILLHOUSE CONNER

YOUNG/GASKINS/FERGUSON/SMITH of Northeastern Kentucky

Nina Young-Bennett — 30 Aug 2000 12:00:00 GMT

BOYDSTONS>VA>OH

genica_57 — 31 Aug 2001 4:38:15 GMT

I'm researching my Boydston roots. My grandfather was Charles Boydston(m. Hazel Hatfield), g.grandfather: James Boydston,(m.Mary Jane Brown) g.g.grandfather: Joseph Boydston, (m. Mary Ann Brown)g.g.g.grandfather: Isaac Boydston (m. Rhoda Taylor in Pike Co. and Nancy Waldon in Pickaway Co.), and possibly g.g.g.g grandfather: Joseph Boydston. Very little information is known about our Boydston family. I've been told that the settled in Ohio in the late 1700's/early 1800's from Virginia possibly. Some of the areas in Ohio are Scioto, Pike, Ross and Pickaway Counties. Anyone with info on these Boydstons please reply to genica_57@hotmail.com.

Allen/Moore/Bates Doddridge Co. WV

I Jeffries — 3 Feb 2006 3:58:49 GMT

I am looking for ANY info on a Henry Allen of Doddridge County, WV who was first married to Savilla Bates, then to Effie Moore. I have reason to believe that they all/part are of mixed decendency, either American Indian or Melungeon. Thanks!

Native-American Hiles or Nelson's? PA-MI-WI-ND, 1898-1921

thos. goulde — 8 Apr 2005 3:32:46 GMT

One or both of my maternal genetic grandparents were Native American, to some degree, based on family lore and physical evidence.

We have what seems to be my mother's original, pre-adoption, 1921 WI Birth Registration that lists her mother as Dorothy HILES born circa 1902 MI, and her father as Russel NELSON born circa 1898 PA.

Her mother named my mother Dorothy Muriel Hiles so she had some sentiment toward her.

The Birth Reg lists Dorothy HILES as Telephone Operator in Green Bay WI, and Russel NELSON as Linotype Operator in Ft. Yates ND.

I have searched US Census and cannot identify them for any locales or periods listed. And have looked at state and Native American census where available online. Have seen Native American Nelson listings and heard of Native American Hiles - so I know YOU are out there.

Need more information - got some? Email welcome. Thanks, Thos. tomcat@midcoast.com

"Mulatto/tri-racial (Euro-American Indian-African) JACKSONS from Covington and surrounding counties in Southeast Alabama, Northwest Florida and Richland County, Ohio, (1830s to present).

SharonDaniels90 — 23 Apr 2005 2:46:29 GMT

We are researching mulatto families in Covington County, Alabama. We have a special interest in the Pea Ridge Community of the Conecuh River Township in Covington and Conecuh Counties, Alabama. These areas had a large percentage of mulatto slaves prior to the Civil War. After slavery, these people settled together and married.

We descend from the “Jackson” surname. Many of our descendants lived in Covington and nearby counties before the Civil War. After the Civil War most “Jackson’s” continued to live in Covington well into the late 1930’s. Our search also extends to Escambia and Oskaloosa counties in Florida, where many residents from Covington traveled in search of employment, while others went to Missippi and Mansfield, Ohio.

We would love to correspond with others that are researching mulatto families from these areas with the surnames below.

Thank you in advance for your invaluable help with our family quest.

Sharon

Surname list:

JACKSON
Beasley
Blount
Bradley
Briggs
Brooks
Cameron
Culliver
Daniels
Dees
Feagin
Hart
Henderson
Hewlett
Lewis
Marshall
McBryde
Robinson
Vaughn
Wilson
Wood

The Maddens of Culpeper County, Virginia

Kristine Quintero — 7 Mar 2005 4:51:58 GMT

I have put the family tree for Mary Madden and her descendants online at http://wc.rootsweb.com/~marymadden

I own the book and would be happy to do any look-ups for your own personal research.

AMERICAN INDIAN DESCENT

rag712 — 2 Jun 2004 10:33:47 GMT

TALK ABOUT SECRETS I can't find anything on my grandmother.I know she was not hatched yet no record of birth.Iknow she was born in Lawrenceville N.Y.NEAR CATSKILLS. She is some part indian.She married my grandfather Louis Schadwald.Gramma's name was Celestia Yeager.My dad Louis,my uncle Robert,and my aunt Celestia.I don't think this should be a secret I am part german on my fathers fathers side ,indian on my fathers mothers side.Then there is my mothers side scottish,english,who knows what else.PLEASE HELP Ruthie P.S. All I REMEMBER of my gram Schadwald(Yeager)is she would rock me for hours on end like she was afraid she would lose me or something.

HALLICOLA-OLNEY and SIDNAYOH-SHERIDAN and KITTITAS-GOUDY marriages

Paige Olney Hammond — 31 Aug 2001 4:48:36 GMT

Trying to locate any info regarding the marriage of Capt. Nathan Hale Olney (white) and Jeannette "Twawy" Hallicola (listed as Yakima but was Wasco/Warm Springs Nation)

Also help regarding the relationship of Lt. Philip Henry Sheridan (white) and Frances "Sidnayoh" (aka Betsy?!)(listed as Yakima but was said to be Rogue River)

Also help regarding the marriage of Captain Goudy (possibly Captian?!)(white) and Sophia or Shupa (listed as Kittitas)

Thanks itsolneyme@hotmail.com

Missouri "Persons of Color"

bettybrooks — 24 May 2004 1:19:54 GMT

The URL for the new "Missouri Persons of Color" website is

http://www.rootsweb.com/~mopoc/

Records are gradually being added, information is welcomed, family information, photos, bible records, cemetery listings, census, family group sheets, death records, land records. The only requirement to contribute information is the connection with Missouri.
A new Yahoo Group has been also started. You will need a Yahoo ID to join this group and post queries, please visit the group site at:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MO_POC/

To contact the website owners,use mo_poc@yahoo.com

William Shade (NC, KY, AR, AL, TN, OK) Surnames: Shade, Reeves, Henry, Irish, Manning's, Young's

Robert — 24 May 2004 1:22:29 GMT

Hello I'm researching my ggggrandfather William Shade.He was alledgely born in North Carolina of Native Am,black and white heritage.He migrated to Alabama ,Arkansas,Oklahoma and Tenn.Does anybody have any Shade's or him in their line?

Black-Indians info

Gail Gerald — 21 Sep 2002 5:43:03 GMT

I am looking to see if there is any information that I can find on Black-Indians from South Carolina. My grandfather's surname was Owens; his father's or grandfather's surname was Marcus. I was told that they were from Florence County, SC, and that my grandfather's people were black-Indians. They were described as dark-skinned, black people who had so-called "good" hair. Would this describe some black-Indians accurately? I myself am from Marion County, South Carolina.

Goodwin Nickerson Indian Connection in Canada

pfevens — 24 May 2004 1:23:15 GMT

Looking for info on the indian connection in my family.Family oral history has it my ggrandmother,Anne Lenwood Goodwin b:1872 Argyle Sound Nova Scotia d:1943 was Mi'Kmaw or Metis,m:Robert Howard Nickerson b:Nov 6 1864 Barrington Nova Scotia d:1927 at sea.He married first,Matilda Goodwin,Ann's second cousin.I have traced Metis to Matilda.Any and all info greatly appreciated.

ELLIS FAMILY NY TO WISCONSIN: INDIAN ROOTS

JulieSand192 — 3 Jul 2003 3:56:58 GMT

Good day,
I am researching my gggrandfather, JABEZ STEPHEN ELLIS, b. ca. 1826 Saratoga, NY, who settled in the GRANT WISCONSIN area and married Susannah Carter in 1867. His obit says he was "half-Indian, but raised English." A family legend says that his mother, Sarah, was born in England and kidnapped during an Indian raid after arriving in the US. She bore children by her captor and was later released, when she married an ELLIS who raised the children as his. I have researched many ELLIS lines with little luck. I am wondering about Sarah's maiden name, the ELLIS father's first name, the tribe that Jabez is descended from, etc. If this sounds familiar to anyone, I would greatly appreciate any info.
Thank you

DNA and Black Dutch

BlackDutch — 15 May 2002 7:52:32 GMT

I am posting this message on the message board, as I don't have an email account for list use.

How conclusive is the DNA research method?

My paternal line is "Black Dutch," the origin of which is a mystery, but the line stems from PA mid to late 1700's into TN early 1800's...
Can these DNA researchers explain what is meant by "Black Dutch" in my family line (Indian, German, Sephardim, etc...)?

Possible Researchers of WOLTZ/WORTTS Families of VA/GA &/or STINSON Families of GA(Meriwether-Troup Counties) Surnames: Ivory-Reese-Henry-Stinson-Moore-Woltz-Martin

jiveoree — 24 May 2004 1:25:39 GMT

Hiya: Anyone out there happening to be in such of clues/leads to cross-racial extentions of the WOLTZ/WORTTS Families of VA &/or GA ===>, heaviest current concentation of the Woltz's now lies in OH (Hocking/Licking Cos. & Columbus Metroplex). ++or++ the STINSON Familes of Meriwether/Troup Cos. & the Columbus GA Metroplex? -- All & Any Resarched Info. will be Most Seriously Appreciated: In Researchatude: Jim I./SF,CA - 94134

Rawls Indian and Black

raymond singleton — 11 Mar 2002 7:51:11 GMT

My name is Raymond Singleton, my mother was Armelia Rawls from east texas. She was jasper co. silsbee and beaumont. Willie Rawls my grandfather was mixed with apache and african american. His wife was Dosha Maddox and was recorded as mixed raced, she also had apache and black. If this could be of any help please E-mail me at loudkfc@yahoo.com

SIMPSONS of Athens and Columbus, Ohio

Nina Young-Bennett — 24 May 2004 1:35:10 GMT

Marcus RUSSELL family>AL>TN

Joan Stone — 30 Aug 2001 7:57:46 GMT

Searching for info on the family of Marcus (Marquise)Henderson Russell of Ala, around Jackson Co., later Jefferson and Blount Co married Jane Brasseale of Blount Co, in Lawrence Co. Tn.. They are of native American descent. I would like to know which tribe. Thanks

TYREE, BRYARS of South Alabama

bobbytyree1 — 18 Nov 2001 3:29:36 GMT

Dennis Tyree, b.about 1853 in South Alabama. Family story is that a Mr. Bryars fathered a son with a very young Creek girl. The Tyree, a Scottish trader, took in the mother and son and gave them the Tyree name.
I need help!! Any info would be appreciated.

HOWE, MONROE>KS>White/Indian Marriages>1700s

CJM65 — 22 Apr 2002 1:06:53 GMT

Howe(male),Monroe(female)Married to Indians,maybe 1700's

ROE>1892>OH genealogy search

ABRSR — 7 Nov 2001 11:40:00 GMT

I am looking for any information on Charles & Catherine Roe that emmigrated to the U.S.A. on the steamship SS Amerique in 1892. I am trying to make a connection, if possible, to the Ernest Roe family of Southeastern Ohio. Any information on this matter would be greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance. Allen Roe, Houston, TX.

McKINNIE>GA>1900

Mac McKinnie — 31 Aug 2001 4:50:34 GMT

Looking for info on my father Lemuel J. McKinnie, lived in the Ballpark Dist of Bibb Co. GA in 1900 with wife Ida and children, Emily, Lizzie, Luke & John. 1870 Census hows him as mulatto. His father also named Lemuel McKinnie, lived in Bradley Co. TN in 1870. Attempting to locate any siblings of any named above.I am the son of Lemuel Jr. from his third marriage

SMITHs of Russellville>N AL>1865

hicksgd — 31 Aug 2001 4:52:44 GMT

Looking for info on ggrandfather William (Bill) Smith, a mulatto. Born circa 1865 in Northern Alabama. Family lore has it his father was white, also named William Smith. My mother states he was often mistaken as white. Married 2nd wife Annie Reed in 1897 in Russellville. Moved to St. Francis Co. AR after 1910.

SMITH & SAUNDERS of Northeastern Kentucky

Nina Young-Bennett — 30 Aug 2000 12:00:00 GMT

Attempting to find all information possible on my paternal tri-racial heritage. My father's mother's people all had origins in Fleming and Nicholas Counties in Kentucky. His mother's side were named SMITH and SAUNDERS.

My grandmother's (FLORA ELLIOTT SMITH YOUNG) mother was named ANNA BELL SAUNDERS (1872-1949). She's also been referred to in records as "ANNIE BELL." She was born in Sherburne, Kentucky to OLIVER ("Pappy Oliver"; d. 9/6/1910) and CATHERINE ("Mammy Kate"; d. 8/29/1901) SAUNDERS.

Anna's siblings included:

ROY, who married a woman named "NINA". I have no info on whether or not they had children.

ELLIOTT, who was unmarried, with no children. He served in the military, although I don't know where or when. My presumption is the Spanish-American War. He settled in Nogales, Arizona, where he died in the 1960's.

MARY LIZA, who married JOHN McBEE. They had three children: ROBERT McBEE (d. 1984 in KY); ELIZABETH (who married WILLIAM DUDLEY, and the names of their children are not known); and HATTIE (who married a man by the last name of GREENE; whether or not they had children is not known.

LUCINDA, who married a man by the last name of POTTS. I do not know if they had children, but presume that they did.

Grandma's father's side were the SMITH's. I don't know anything about my great-grandfather's side of the family. All I know about him is that his name was ANDREW JACKSON SMITH, and he was born 10/25/1860 in Nicholas County, Kentucky. His occupation was horse-breeder. He died 8/5/1946 in Sherburne, Kentucky, and is probably buried in the "Colored" cemetery there called "GILEAD." I'd like to know if my great-grandfather had any siblings and, if so, would like to make contact with their offsping.

I currently have a photo of ANNA BELL and ANDREW on my genealogy webpage. (Please allow ample time for loading.) More photos will be coming soon, including some of my grandmother's siblings and her Uncle Roy. Any information would be greatly appreciated.

THOMAS, HUGHES, HOUSTON

Dee Bryant — 24 May 2004 1:36:17 GMT

Harvey Thomas is said to be a full blooded Indian unknown which tribe. He married Louise(african-american) unknown last name and had five children John, Harvey Jr, Estella, Lillian, and Elizabeth.
Henry Clay Hughes, Jr is from somewhere in Alabama it is said that he was married and fathered a child with Everline Houston who later changed her name to Helen E. Hughes, but never married Henry.