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disownment by family

hmpollard — 4 Dec 2008 11:29:00 GMT

There is some family lore that a couple of my ancestors were disowned, possibly because they may have been involved in prostitution. I have been unable to find much on the two who I believe may be the girls who were disowned.
Just curious about the term 'disownment'. Was this a legal process or just simply being officially kicked out of the family? I think it would have been during the late twenties or thirties when this took place.

Shipwreaks a family Curse Please Help.... Looking for more informaiton

FawnLaffin69 — 24 Oct 2008 5:01:48 GMT

I am looking for a couple of steamers and ships,l and I cant seem to find any information with the dates I would need or any information at all......

1. North King Steamer. My Great Great grandfather Alexander MacLellan/McClellan he died on a Accident that happen. He died in 1899-1900. He was a wheelsman on the Steamer

2. Oliver Mowat crew before 1917

3. Sophia Minch when it was in a wreak before 1917

4. Scheobazer?. Sank outside the Eastern Gap, (near The George A March). Capt MacDonald and his wife drowned. Neil MacLellan (My Great Uncle) Surviorer, would like to know if there was any other surviovors and a picture of the ship. (can not find any records of this ship at all).......

5. Edmund Fitzgerald When it sank on November 10, 1975 ( A 3rd Cousin Of Mine) Gordon MacLellan

His father was Donald MacLellan A Master Captian......

6. What Ships did Donald Clifford MacLellan Sail and accident that Happen?,

You can reach me at fawnsfamilytree@hotmail.com

Thanks Fawn Laffin

377 Hansen Road North Brampton Ontario L6V 3T5

I am looking for Stories from the Christian County Illinois area

traciehicks1973 — 17 Oct 2008 12:40:20 GMT

Hi everyone. Hope you all are doing well.
I am looking for stories,paranormal related, that people have seen or heard in the Christian County IL area. I would love to write a book on this area. You can contact me at ccghs@newwavecomm.net . I look forward to hearing from you. Thank you.

Marjorie Wells-Cook

KimHilderbrand — 17 Aug 2005 8:53:36 GMT

Hello. I am desperately searching for a book by Marjorie Eileen Wells-Cook called And Then There Was You. If anyone can help me with this I would greatly appreciate it.

Miles Lee Ralston

Irene Ralston — 15 Apr 2003 7:45:26 GMT

It's been my family lore that I'm related to the William Hoskin(s) who participated in The Boston Tea Party.

lboyko_98 — 18 Aug 2008 8:41:53 GMT

It's been my family lore that I'm related to the William Hoskin(s) who participated in The Boston Tea Party.

If you are certain of your relation, maybe you can help me connect with you and determine my actual relation.

Thank you!
...I can only go back to William R. Gerney Hoskin (gr gr grandfather) (spouse Rosina Wasley

John Apostos Drivas / Bainbridge Island, Washington

gwatts — 5 May 2007 4:09:08 GMT

While researching another family on Bainbridge Island I came across this article in the Bainbridge Review about an attempt on the life of John A. Drivas in 1950. He had killed Severin Thomason in self-defense two years prior and had been exonerated. The sheriff's office believed the attempt on Drivas' life had been in revenge. The suspect is believed to have stolen dynamite from a controversial bridge project, strung them in a gunny sack, and slid them down a utility wire towards Drivas' house. I thought the article was worth posting here for any Drivas' researchers.

I believe that the John Drivas mentioned in the article is the same John Apostos Drivas born in Greece in 1890 who resided in Seattle in the early 20th century and died on Bainbridge Island in 1980. I have no further information on this family.

1st article - The Bainbridge Review, 6 April 1950, pg 1
2nd article - The Bainbridge Review, 20 April 1950, pg 3

Mary Elizabeth Bates Lee...her murdered lover

JerrieManning — 26 Jul 2008 9:34:56 GMT

My great grandmother had an affair in Ibapah UT with a young Indain man from the local village. (about 1911-1912) Joesph Lee, Elizabeths husband shot and killed this man while he sat beside his lover. I need help to find this man. He is my great grandfather that had only been know by his "given name." Joe Martines.

Death in NV 1863 attack of stagecoach-- Riley SIMPSON

danderup — 26 Jun 2008 8:04:59 GMT

Am not related. May be of interest to someone who is. I have no further info but additional old newspaper extracts may be found at URL:

www.newspaperabstracts.com/index.php

Vern D
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Transcribed by Dee Sardoc
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Stockton Daily Independent
Stockton, San Joaquin Co., CA
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>>SATURDAY, 23 MAY 1863<<

INDIANS ATTACK the STAGE -- A telegram from Jacksonville, Reese river, May 20th, says the Overland stage was attacked by Indians on the 19th, about a mile east of Canon Station. The driver, Riley SIMPSON, was instantly killed, and Major EGAN, being on the box, took the lines and drove to Willow Springs. There were 4 soldiers on the coach, but the Indians being among the rocks on each side of the canon, they could do but little in defending it. One horse was shot in the hind leg. The coach continued on East, and everything will go on as usual.

The Ancestry of Chamberlin and Grant trilogy

swolfy — 8 Jun 2008 2:07:45 GMT

I have a series of books called "The Ancestry of Chamberlin and Grant" written by June G. Henderson. It details lineages from the Roman Empire, royal lines of a variety of countries (such as Spain, England, Hungary), American Revolutionary war soldiers, Mayflower passengers, the list goes on and on. I am willing to look-up and share info from this awesome collection. Contact me at swolfy@charter.net.

Liverpool Ghosts & Hangings

originalmargmal — 16 Mar 2008 7:32:02 GMT

Does anyone have any Ghost stories that have been passed down?

When my grandmother Agnes GANNON was around 5 (1896-ish) she and her mother where going home from shopping when she looked back down the street and saw a "funny man dancing in the air".
She asked her mother about it & her mother just picked her up and hurried home.
Years later, her mother told her that what she had seen was the ghost of a hanging.
The place name has come down to us as Markey's Gate (Marquis Gate, perhaps?)

Has anyone ever heard of anything similar?
They lived in Kirkdale not far from Great Mersy Street.

wendy walton- touring cyclist?

bernitree — 2 Feb 2008 3:40:19 GMT

A few years ago I was given some packing boxes,while moving from Queensland.
in the bottom of the box under some newspaper packing were several old certifictes,that I'd like to return to the family if interested.
if you know of Wendy Walton who apparantly ended up in Qld Australia,or at least her certs did, let me know.
cheers
Bernadette Callinan

the certs are made out to "WENDY WALTON"

DETAILS:

HERTFORDSHIRE COUNTY COUNCIL,SWIMMING CERTIFIACATE-PROFICIENCY
ALSO -100 YARDS
25 YARDS

LOVELY SCROLLED CERT:

HITCHIN URBAN ROAD SAFETY COMMITTEE/ AWARD/
FOR USING PEDESTRIAN CROSSINGS IN A CORRECT MANNER IN ACCORDANCE WITHT HE KERB DRILL AS LAID DOWN IN THE HIGHWAY CODE DATED 4TH MAY 1949.

ANOTHER NICELY SCROLLED CERT:

CYCLING PROFFICIENCY CERT
AWARED BY THE SOCIETY FO THE PREVENTION OF ACCIDENTS,THE CYCLING TOURING CLUB AND THE NATIONAL CYCLISTS UNION DATED 13 JUNE 1958.

ALSO FROM SOME SORT OF FOLDER GIVEN OUT AT SCHOOL:
DATED 8TH JUNE 1946
A MESSAGE FROM KING GEORGE(apparantly as his printed signature is at the bottom ) celebrating victory.lovely coat of arms at the top.on the reverse is "important war dates" and a space for my families war record.

I'd love to return these. If no one claims them, I will frame them as they a re lovely old items.

Sr. & Jr. meaning in records?

Fred Kindel — 30 Jul 2006 11:00:28 GMT

Often in early local records (e.g., county court minutes of 1800 +/-, etc.) will be found reference to John Doe Sr and John Doe Jr. Many researchers take this to mean that this signifies a father and son. But, I have also been informed, but can't remember where, that this is not necessarily true. That often in localities where there were two persons named John Doe, that they were not related; they were simply "nicknamed" Sr and Jr signifying which was elder and which was younger, in order for people at the time to be sure which person was being noted. Are there readers of this query who agree with the second meaning? Does anyone have a source or sources in which this second meaning has been documented? Thanks for your help. -- Fred

Looking for help with a legend I heard

leavetoday — 30 Jan 2008 8:02:55 GMT

Back in grade 8 I was told a legend by a substitute teacher. I don't know where it takes place and it's been YEARS since I've repeated it so my take on it will no doubt be vague.

From what I remember, it's a man who swore to protect a family or friend's treasure, which if I'm right was 3 crowns from past kings or something like that. The protector guy somehow died but continued to protect the goods from the grave. Towards the end of the story, it's said that a man who was plotting to steal the treasure fell of a cliff and was killed. Witnesses say that although there was NO ONE in sight, the way his body lunged forward out of nowhere made it seem as the he was pushed or tackled off the cliff. I don't know how he went on to rationalize and justify things, but it was the protector who pushed the main off the cliff.

That's all I remember. Does this ring a bell for anyone?

old Carter family plantation?

melkee34 — 28 Jun 2007 3:17:19 GMT

I am looking for anyone who might know anything about some of the items listed in a letter from my grandfather (Theodore Bruce Kiper) to my grandmother (Loretta Maxine Litchfield) back in June, 1937:

"...got to Gilbert at 11:00 after having stopped at Monroe for a few minutes..."
"Just after dinner we struck out for the Piney Hills. I have always wanted to go back to the old Cutter Place which is (or was) my great-great-great-grandad's on my grandmother's side. It is only a partly open field which trees have grown upon since it was abandoned...some of the trees are over a foot in diameter; some are right where the homestead stood. There is no sign of the house left except rocks where the chimney used to stand.
The way we got there was to drive to miles off the road to an old negro's home and continue a foot from there, the negro was out guide, we walked for five miles deep back in to the hills. On the way we stopped by to look over the sight of the old academy and school. All of these places were built long before the war except the school which was built during the war to keep the Yankees from finding the women and home folks. There are a number of these old places hidden away in the hills but nothing to show mostly but decayed homemade bricks and broken pottery.
We got back to the negro's place at 7:00 after walking steady for 5 hours.
This morning we went out to the old Lewe's Planation. The house is still standing and only a negro family living there now. It is an extra large three story house, all home made. The lumber was all hand cut and split by slaves. Below the house inthe foundation which is made of handmade bricks is where they kept the mean and runaway slaves. The hooks and rings are still in the walls."
My grandfather's grandmother was Sarah "Sallie" Amanda Carter, d/o Elias Carter. I figure by the number of "great's" in my grandfater listed, the house he refers to possibly belonged to the father of Elias Carter, Sr who was married to Lucy Duke.

Thank you

Have a family legend that flies in the face of history?

R_mesnard — 13 Nov 2006 8:31:58 GMT

Vlad Dracul

Bill Pfitzer — 18 Feb 2004 4:00:36 GMT

While researching our family ancestry,I began studying the history of Vlad Dracul.According to my most recent research,there is a good chance I am a descendant of his. After watching a documentary about him,I began experiencing pictures. I could see pictures of outfits worn during his time period. I also heard someone had managed to channel him,& is now able to communicate with him. I have been trying to contact that person,because I want to know more about this figure in history.I understand he learned some very barbarous practices,while studying in Turkey,during his reign.I also understand there is a curse around his castle,which I believe is why I am experiencing some of what I am experiencing. I believe he has learned that one of his descendants wants to visit his castle,& perhaps,claim it as part of the family history. I also believe the person who is channeling this particular historic figure,wants me to know what he wants to say regarding the matter.I hope to someday get more detailed information about his ancestral line,maybe even more information about his castle. If anyone knows anything that might assist in my research,please,let me know.

Half Cousin question

Convoy71 — 13 Oct 2007 12:53:22 GMT

Wasn't sure what board to put this on. There is a slight argument in the question of a child being my son's half cousin.

I will use first name's (not last to descibe the dilemma)
My son adam has a 1st cousin Danny which is my wife's brother's son. My wife's brother divorced his wife, she went and had a second child with someone else. Would'nt her second child be my son's half cousin since she is the mother of my son's cousin.

Country Music Songwriter - Greiner

iofmysoul — 11 Sep 2007 1:55:18 GMT

I am seeking information on how to research songwriters. My family lore is that my great grandfather was a country music songwriter who wrote "Band of Gold". I know if is difficult to locate this type of information since songwriters of this time did not receive proper credit for ther work, but I am hoping someone may have ventured into this type of research. I am interested in finding out what other country songs he may have written.

Mandy Lynn Johnson haunts 2609 Orleans Street in Maryland

LynnLocklear1976 — 19 Jun 2007 4:10:33 GMT

This may sound strange, but I lived in a house in Maryland back in 1987 that was haunted by the ghost of a Mandy Lynn Johnson. Ms. Johnson came to me in a dream and showed me part of what happened to end her life, it was a tragedy to say the least. I was only 12 at the time and was unable to unearth any information about her or her family. I'm now 31 and I want to end that part of my life with some finality. All I know is that she was 18 at the time of her death and was pregnant with a child for a man with the initials J. M. ~ she was killed at 2609 Orleans Street in Baltimore MD and was living with her parents/grandparents at the time of her death. She had a sister with Lynn as part of her name as well, she connected to me because I have the same nickname, Lynn. My Uncle is said to have been able to see her as well and confirmed to my Mother what I had told her about the dreams/visions that I had. The house was once owned by a Kirson family and has been sold about 5 times since my family moved out in 1990. It's like finding a needle in a haystack I know, but if anyone can help me in my search I would appreciate it. I'm currently waiting to get more information on the previous owners of the house where I lived and hoping to find either a birth certificate or death certificate or obituary at the local library. Your help is greatly appreciated!

Mandy Lynn Johnson

LynnLocklear1976 — 7 Jun 2007 12:56:56 GMT

This may sound strange, but I lived in a house in Maryland back in 1987 that was haunted by the ghost of a Mandy Lynn Johnson. Ms. Johnson came to me in a dream and showed me part of what happened to end her life, it was a tragedy to say the least. I was only 12 at the time and was unable to unearth any information about her or her family. I'm now 31 and I want to end that part of my life with some finality. All I know is that she was 18 at the time of her death and was pregnant with a child for a man with the initials J. M. ~ she was killed at 2609 Orlean Street in Baltimore MD and was living with her parents/grandparents at the time of her death. She had a sister with Lynn as part of her name as well, she connected to me because I have the same nickname, Lynn. My Uncle is said to have been able to see her as well and confirmed to my Mother what I had told her about the dreams/visions that I had. It's like finding a needle in a haystack I know, but if anyone can help me in my search I would appreciate it. I'm currently waiting to get more information on the previous owners of the house where I lived and hoping to find either a birth certificate or death certificate or obituary at the local library. Your help is greatly appreciated.

Lewis Newsome Haunts 29 Vine St. Gallipolis, OH

cb — 20 Sep 2003 1:13:05 GMT

My ancestor, PETER DAGES, born in Germany built a beautiful brick home @ 29 Vine street, Gallipolis, Ohio, in the late 1840’s It is now on the hsitorical register The house is listed in the current Gallia CountyTourism Guide as noted for its beautiful spiral stair case and mantels.
There are claims that the ghost of LEWIS NEWSOME haunts the house. Who is he and why would he haunt this particular house?????
Any help would be appreciated!

Re: Indian Princess

leejean3307 — 20 Apr 2007 10:47:05 GMT

I have been browsing through message boards and just happened upon this one. I am searching for my Native American Indian ancestry. My Grandfather was born at Mckees Creek Nicolas Co. W. Virginia in 1889. He talked to me about his Grandmother who he said was Indian. He told me of her ways but I was a young girl of 7-8 at the time and didn't understand that there were different tribes. My GG Grandmother was born at Allegania 9Jan1838. Her name was Margaret and I want to find her ancestry. It was good to find a message board with Native American people although I never would refer to a female ancester in a bloodline of that culture as princess cause that is European. As I am decended of that blood also I don't disrespect any terms of any culture for it is only a "word" (A rose by anyother name is still a rose) Thank you to anyone for any info and/or response. Even if no info about my GG Grandmother's Indian heritage it was good to see Native American people on this board. Thank you

Texas Migration---Wm. Woody Family From TN.>TX.

ACMECH — 22 Oct 2002 4:33:57 GMT

Grandma's Stories

galesali70984861572 — 15 Sep 2004 3:48:53 GMT

my name is Melanie. my grandma has on several occassions told this one story about the time that her uncle Johnny was walking home in the dark.
i finally have it on tape...without it with me though this is the best that i can do.
one night uncle Johnny was coming back up the lane they all used to live down, he was coming from around Joppa Rd. and the little store that's there. It's out in the middle of the sticks so there aren't any (or many) street lights even today...but it was even darker back then. suddenly at some point down the lane this guy, I think grandma said his name was Joe Daniel, just comes up and starts talking to uncle Johnny. and uncle Johnny was talking to him back, because they had known each other for some time. well a few minutes later Joe Daniel turned to Johnny and said that he had to get going...
it wasn't until Johnny got all the way home and put the bag of groceries down that he realized that Joe Daniel had been dead for several years. needless to say Johnny didn't go out much by himself after dark after this experience.

another story grandma told me about was when her grandma Anna died. she said that grandma Anna had gotten really old. Where the house was located, down some lane in the same vacinity, there were trees that blocked the sun/moon on one side of the house. well Great-grandpa (grandma's daddy) was standing in the kitchen of the house (which was on that side) with some of the kids (grandma included) and was looking out the window. because of the trees again you could see no moon. but all the sudden he called the kids to the window and pointed at a bright ball of light hovering over and somewhat in front of the trees. it lingered there for a couple minutes or so, and when it left, g-grandpa said "well, grandma must've just died". within moments someone came rushing in and delivered the news that indeed she had died. Grandma Anna in this story was my g-grandpa's mother.

HORSE THIEVES AND HANGMEN

angelarobinson65 — 21 Jun 2006 11:40:13 GMT

The story goes that the Seiberts(my great grandparents) came from Germany and that they had to be out by midnight, some say to escape the hangmen for horse stealing. My great uncle (Elijha Seibert) used to tell this story but without the stealing and hangmen part. I do know that they came from Prussia, but that is as far as I've been able to trace them. No Andrew or Clarissa Seibert in any 1850 census, yet their first child was born in PA in 1854 and Clarissa was still single and living with her parents in PA in 1850. Sometimes in the census he said he was born 1828 in PA, and other years, he put born 1828 Germany. His sons did this also in later years. Maybe he was trying not to be found?

Re: Indian Princess

Linda kj — 19 Dec 2002 12:14:21 GMT

They were told that they were Indian Princess' to the White Men who usually purchased them at a high value. This is the reason we have so many of them, also, all she needs to be to be a real indian princess is to be the daughter of a chief! I too have one of the notoriaus women in my family!

Searching...

veninjay — 9 Feb 2007 7:24:02 GMT

I don't know how many people believe in ghosts but I sertainly do. I'm living in my in-laws'house and there is a ghost that roams the property. Question is': Who is she? No one in the house seems to know. Does anyone know a female, about mid-20 to early 30's, that died, I think around 1830 to 1900 (probably a lil later), that has long red or blonde curls, Tall and lean. She seems to LOVE children since I have only seen her around my kids who is a infant and a toddler. She seems to be smiling everytime I see her but not a happy smile, like a sad smile.
I don't know if there is only 1 ghost but someone is also playing around with my radio, the tv, and someone fixed the gas burner on the stove when we had to always use a lighter to light it.
I would like to learn as much as I can about this women.

Ridge Home information

mvpara — 26 Dec 2006 1:31:57 GMT

I'm doing some research on Ridge Home unfortunately there insn't much information...I believe Ridge Home was opened in 1910 and was just recently torn down and now has a Super Target in it's place.It was mental hospital also known as Colorado State Home for Mental Defectives at Ridge located in Arvada Co,most made up of juviniles some we're perfectly normal children that were dropped off to live there the rest of their lives then later they became socially mentaly disabled,it got the name Ridge Home because of the street that ran along side called Ridge Road.
There have been stories of abuse and neglect but nothing specific has been reported,one death has been reported.The building has been reported to be haunted,after it was torn down there has been said to still be activity...why? I'm not sure since there isn't much information on any deaths there...there isn't much information period,some has been said to be classified...This is what I'm in search of,the untold information that maybe residents of Arvada might know of or any stories from past employees ect...
I'd appreciate any information that anyone has thanks.

Photographs from the Land of the Wandering Souls

ljames621 — 17 Dec 2006 4:57:54 GMT

I started a family history in the summer of 2004. It has been an exciting, eye-opening experience in many ways. Unraveling a history of unsolved murders, retribution, cover-ups, and unexplained disappearances. I have created a website in order to share the experience. I invite you to check it out.

www.landofwanderingsouls.com

Enjoy!! Lisa James

Do you know your ancestors?

shelley lynch — 25 Jun 2006 5:51:02 GMT

someone calling me

BDavis4206 — 18 Jul 2002 3:28:14 GMT

Scotch-Irish Weddings: custom of shiveree's (?)

kayrome cufwjyak — 22 Jun 2006 3:28:16 GMT

Hello, I am looking for spelling and information on "shiveree's) - a wedding custom of a lot of noise making. Do you know of this custom? Kay

Television Ghost

Kevin Lee — 16 Oct 2006 8:49:14 GMT

Childhood memories captued forever

evanmangan — 22 Oct 2006 10:44:38 GMT

interesting site here - childhood memories recorded in telephoen conversatiosn then professionally written and bound

http://www.everydaybiographies.com

James Wilkerson Harris

mabelsamples — 22 Jun 2006 10:27:16 GMT

My great-grandfather, James Wilkerson Harris, is purported to have played Stradivarius for Queen Victoria. He made an imitation, left it in England and emigrated to the US in 1868. My father at one time had the Strad.

My mother said he changed his name when he came to the US from Wilkerson to Harris or Harris to Wilkerson. That makes no sense since he is listed in the US as "James Wilkerson Harris."

He was born 9/29/1835 in Lancaster, Lancashire, England. I have a lot of information on him after he came to the States, but I can find nothing on him in England. If you can help, please contact me.

Ohio rivers song

Kari Jo — 10 Aug 2006 3:18:42 GMT

I know this is an odd request for a genealogy board, but I'm looking for a song about the Ohio rivers. My grandma remembers hearing it when she was young, and she says it goes "On the O-hi-o," and also lists the different rivers that run into it. I'd love to have the lyrics to add to my genealogy files. Normally I'd be looking for her relatives, but after my vacation with her in Ohio this summer I'd like to find it. Thanks!

Doing Family History of a Lady Born in 1903

colettebenson1 — 21 Aug 2005 9:12:28 GMT

Hi all this evening i visited my mum in Ormskirk hospital (mums fine out tomorrow) the lady in the next bed was born in 1903 Ethel Mable Wilson.
Mum said they had got talking that day and Ethel happened to say were she lived when she was born, mum nearly fell of the bed as it was the street mum and dad lived in together for many years, myself too i was 1 when we moved there,
Brewster St Kirkdale, Ethel was talking to mum for ages about the old days, and when i arrived i got talking to her what a lovely lady she cuddled a little soft toy a lamb, i tell you what she was of good mind.
I said to her what was it like when you were young i wore long dresses she said and we had gas lamps, i asked her her dads name she was a bit confused and named him William Cowan, Cowan was her husbands surname bless,
Then i asked her her mums name she said Ethel Blenkarn.
I told her i dabbled in Family history she said oh wonderful you clever girl you , i couldnt do that.
With this ladies mothers name i have gone back to Appleby Westmorland 1871, and her mum in 1911 1938 & 1962 still in Brewster St, she did say her mum was from Appleby.
Tomorrow i will take in and show her all this information and give it to her daughter who is near 80.
Wonder what it must be like to live so long and see so many changes in your life time.
Dad even asked her about the Titanic oh yes she said i remember the big big ship.

Just a little story Colette xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Death Near Birthday Phenomenon

greenacres58 — 25 Sep 2006 5:02:20 GMT

When I began genealogy research I was amazed at the amount of people I was documenting who died near their birthdays. I have since heard others comment on the same, but have not found any scientific or statistical studies/information to back this up.

Has anyone else made this same observation? Any ideas on why this would happen?

I recently was documenting lineage for application into a lineage society. Of the nine ancestors for which I had both birth and death dates, this strange phenomenon of dying near your birthday applied to 4 of the 9. This is way to high of a percentage to be taken as 'coincidence'.

Love to hear other's observations, thoughts, etc.

Thank you.

Sherry

persian princess

magi50 — 30 Apr 2006 10:10:43 GMT

There is a family tale which alleges that my husband's great uncle met and married a persian princess, was knighted and became a chief of police in Africa!

As he was born in Cumbria in 1894 I think this is highly unlikely but would like to prove/disprove this.

Does anyone have any ideas how I might go about this please?

Clay, WV is home to generations of Cherokee descendants-Seaberry

400read — 8 Aug 2005 6:52:48 GMT

This interesting article entitled, Secret Society, by Robert J. Byers, appeared in the Charleston Gazette newspaper on June 11, 2005.
http://wvgazette.com/section/Series/The+World+in+West+Virgin...

I hope this helps someone in their search.
Jane

info on man killed in bar late 1800's early 1900's

john wolverton — 6 Sep 2006 9:38:42 GMT

My great grandfather left scotland after getting in a bar fight with a man and killed him by cutting his head off with an axe. This happened in the late 1800's to early 1900's.
Came to America and changed name. He would never give us his true last name. I am hoping to find anyone that may know of this story and his real name so that I can research my ancestry.

Texas: Stealing farms

Iris — 27 Aug 2006 7:33:30 GMT

There is a family story about my great-grandmother's brothers. Their names were McDuff or McDuffie. They lived somewhere around Austin or Round Rock. The story goes if they wanted a farm they would just ride in and take it. I heard some stories that they would shoot people. Has anyone heard a story similar to this?

1880's slang

danm70 — 11 Feb 2006 10:11:03 GMT

I'm going through stacks of letters from 1880s from family members writing back and forth from Franklin County PA to the sons out west (MO, ILL, Dakota Terr, Kansas).

Came across several phrases. Are these PA Dutch/or just family phrases.

--Grieshman of the devil ( i assume it means agent of the devil??)

--younds (same as y'all im guessing)

--'bald peat' or 'bald of peat' (maybe 'bald pete') (not sure on this one... I have my hunches... but this is a 'family' board! )

Personal stories, notable connections.

WilliamFGilreath — 11 Jul 2006 11:13:25 GMT

Do you have any you can share, even if about family outside the Gilreaths?

As for me, I'm related to Gilbert Green, a late actor; an owner (Paul Leff, also deceased) of the now gone New York Herald Tribune.

Leona Pearl Green, wife to John Jerome Green (I believe both are deceased, but I'm more sure Jerome is), a brother of Gilbert, was an accomplished artist.

Edward Osher (dod is unknown), my great grandfather on my mother's side, owned property in Disney World, this is according to my aunt (mother's sister).

And, just because I find it curious, I have learned that at least one other person has my exact name. Did anyone ever get in contact with her? How close is my line to her's? http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/message/rw/surnames.gilrea...

Oh, Green comes form Greenfarb, and the origin is Polish. Leff comes from Lew, also Polish.

Osher is derived from Osherankoff or Osherenkoff, something like that. I've not been able to find anything on the name except for the possibility that it might be Polish in Origin, though Edward was born somewhere in Russia.

Poem about pioneer TX women

kathy — 12 Jun 2006 12:25:48 GMT

Hoping someone is familiar with a poem that includes the line: "The women who bore Texas could see beyond the sun, they sat on cabin steps when the long was done."

Do you know the rest or the author?

Thanks,
Kathy

Greenwich R-War stories

R_mesnard — 13 Nov 2006 8:31:58 GMT

The ghost of General Mad Anthony Wayne looking for flesh

R_mesnard — 13 Nov 2006 8:31:58 GMT

This is a local legend for Wayne/Devon, PA, 12 miles outside Philadelphia. It is like the headless horseman tale of Tarrytown.

Anthony was born in Wayne PA and was famous for his R-War exploits. His jacket was lined in British red and was reversible. He often spied on enemy positions in red. I do not now why he was called mad but the mad prince of Bavaria was just way ahead of his time. The Disney castle was fashioned after one of his castles.

After the war he moved west. He settled Fort Wayne IN. The story goes...
His will stated his bones were to rest in the family plot in Wayne PA. After his death the town of Ft Wayne wanted him to be buried there so they boiled the flesh from the bones, buried the flesh in Ft Wayne and sent his bones home. Every Halloween the skeleton rides a ghost horse looking for flesh. It rides down Church road down to Darby-Paoli Pike and rides down the pike. As a teenager after we were too old to trick or treat we used to play hide and seek in that old grave yard that night. That was quite creepy because all the old trees made the grave yard quite dark. The church holds the record for the longest continuous service church in the US. The actual building is not used for services anymore because it is tiny.

Afternoon Weddings

Melanie King — 27 Nov 2004 12:31:53 GMT

While researching for a novel, I'm come across a reference saying that you couldn't get married after twelve noon. It wasn't until after 1886 or late 1886 that this was changed. Unfortuntely, in the copies of marriage certificates that I have, before and after that year, there is no time listed along with the date and place.
I just wondered if this was something that was peculiar to England or was Scotland also bound by these rules.

Family Story~Lace Makers

Aimee — 20 Dec 2004 11:47:24 GMT

It's been said that my great-grandmother and her mother made lace for the palace in England. I know both of them were lace makers, but is there any way of proving the story to be true about them?

Thanks,
Aimee

poor little barefoot

gerichair01 — 26 Jan 2006 1:31:06 GMT

my grand mother would sing me a very sad song (i would be crying before she got the 1st verse finished).
It goes something like :
poor little barefoot his Mama is dead
his Daddy's a drunkard won't
buy him no bread.
Hince the crying haha she also sang about Frankie and Johnny. If any one knows either of these please email me thanks,
dd

Abandoned Hayes Center Cemetary

19 May 2006 10:10:43 GMT

Does anybody know anything about the cemetary north of Hayes Center Nebraska. There is a sign that says Hayes Center Abandoned Cemetary and supposedly the reason there is no headstones but the farmer cannot farm the land is because they could not find a baby that was recorded as buried there. There is an entire myth/legend/spook story also associated with the cemetary that I will post also if anyone is interested. Just thought I'd see if anyone knew, I'd appreciate feedback. Thanks

Goodbye whispers

Jackie Birnbaum — 12 Sep 2000 11:39:39 GMT

When my father and Grandfather both passed away, they had visited me. My father died in 1986 and my grandfather died in 1996 and both of them were in the house that I was staying. I heard my father walking and coughing in the house and the next morning my mother tells me that he had passed away during the night. Then my grandfather I heard in a different house I was along and in the kitchen and I heard him calling me. The next morning my mother calls and tells me that he passed away during the night. Have had many other close relitives pass away but no one has come to say good bye like my father and grandfather. When my mother passed away I was in the hall outside her room and I felt cold and had an empty feeling in my stomach. Walked back into her room after about 5 minutes in the hall and she was gone. I guess she was saying goodbye too.

List of 13 children mysteriously appears

north_1 — 26 Jan 2002 5:20:10 GMT

My great Aunt Nettie had told me that her grandparents (my gt.gt.grandparents) had 13 children, but she couldn't remember all of their names. After her death, a cousin took me to his storage building, where he had stored Aunt Nettie's items, including a huge pile of books. He told me I could have any of the books I wanted. I took a book from the pile and a yellowed paper fell out. I picked up the paper from the floor and was surprised to find a list of names and birthdates. It was the list of the 13 children!!!

Re: "Matty Groves" Family Legend - Folk Song

R.Landry — 7 Aug 2008 8:42:05 GMT

Please forward words to song. Thank you for your attention.

Lullaby search

L.H. Murrell — 9 Jan 2004 7:18:15 GMT

I would like to know the exact words and correct tune to a lullaby that my mother sang to me, and later to my child. It's title is "That Little Girl of Mine". It begins: "A tiny turned up nose, two cheeks just like a rose, so sweet from head to toes, that little girl of mine."
I want to include it in our book of family history that I'm compiling for the grandchildren.
If anyone knows the author or publisher, I would appreciate that information also. Thank you. L. Murrell

Carousel Horse Carvers

mmilka — 9 Aug 2002 12:05:35 GMT

It is said that my great great grandfather and his brother (John C. and Frederick Schmyser who collaborated with a Philip Kappler) carved horses for carousels in the 1860's in the Huron County Michigan area. I have contacted the National Carousel Association and they have not heard of them. It is also said, that they invented a carousel which went vertically, The Califorina Swing is what it was called, it was the forerunner of the Ferris Wheel, (so the story goes)which was the mainattraction at the 1869 Verona Fair (in Michigan). I have hit dead ends in all my research... if anyone knows anything let me know!!!

Italian Burial Customs Your US Family Practiced?

MIPolonia — 3 Dec 2005 5:00:06 GMT

Resarching burial customs borught from Italy and practiced in the US.

In my book "Detroit's Polonia" I mention that a Polish tradition was to stop
a clock at the moment of death- and several Detroit photos show a paper
clock stopped at the time of death- tucked into the floral arrangements.

Old Fashion Sugar Cream Pie

Marcia — 27 May 2006 7:00:14 GMT

Per several requests:
As a native born Grant County, Hoosier I loved this pie. Here is my Mom's old recipe. She was from Warsaw,

4 heaping Tablespoons flour
2/3 cup dark brown sugar
1 cup boiling water
1 cup sweet cream
1 1/2 cup granulated sugar
1/2 teaspoon sugar

Combine flour, sugar (granulated and brown) and salt, Add boiling water,
stirring well. Then add sweet cream. Bake in 350 degree oven until done.
About one hour.

Enjoy.

Marcia
Palm Coast, FL.

Do you have a ghost story about Butte, Montana or area?

Randi Wedlake — 3 Nov 2005 9:50:15 GMT

I am a local historian/author living in Butte, Montana. I am currently working on my first book about local ghost stories. If anyone out there has a story to share, I would love to hear it! Please email me at ekaldew@netscape.com
I understand not everyone wants their personal stories public, but I must also be able to research and authenticate certain information for my book, since the stories in it are to be based on actual events. I respect your right to privacy, however, and I am greatful for any info I can get. Thanks!

A Great Collection of Stories

S. Riley — 8 Oct 2005 1:28:10 GMT

I just started reading some of the messages here and I think I will read them all. Some of the stories made me laugh, some are very endearing and some are informational. Now, I will tell you two stories about my children. When they were young, we had a kitten. I used to buy Carnation Instant Milk in the can and I only gave it to the kitten.. One day when my son was about four he came running into the room I was in, he was all excited and looked scared. He said, "Hurry Ma, Sherry just drank the cat milk". When my children were young, we had a paper boy who every week would knock on the door, I would ask "who is it"? He would reply "collecting" (he never said anything else) , I would open the door and pay him. One day, I heard a knock and asked one of the my daughters , "who is at the door?". She replied "Collectings here".

'Grannie-doctor' remedies from Alabama

lawteedah07 — 23 Jul 2005 8:33:41 GMT

My Grannie is reported to have been a 'Grannie-doctor', one of a long line of home-remedy type healers from Alabama. One specific remedy to remove warts is as follows: WART REMOVAL-Cut one large potato in half , wipe the cut side of the potatoes across the wart you wish to remove, bury the pieces of potato under seperate rocks.[two pieces = two rocks]. When the next full moon rises your wart will have disappeared. This actually worked for me as a child, can't say why.~I have included some more of Granies remedies following this disclaimer- please DO NOT substitute the following 'remedies' for a real doctors care for your family or yourself, these 'remedies' are only family legends-they are NOT meant to be used to treat medical problems or to substitute for the care of a real doctor. In the opinion of this Grannie, I sez-"Ya' could jez die if'n ya dont use a real doctor!] : Other remedies are: COUGH/ASTHMA attacks: Boil a dozen large cut onions in water till very soft, wrap onions in a cotton poultice & lay across the chest of the asthmatic. Add a little sugar to the liquid from the onions & give it to the asthmatic to drink. This liquid also works to aide with relief of colicy babies. BLEEDING: WIpe the crusty soot from the inside of your cook chimney & mix equal parts into some yellow lard. Wrap the mixture on cotton cloth then tie the cloth around the bleeding area snuggly until the cloth turns brown. [2-5 minutes] Remove & reapply a fresh batch.[dont use this for deep, large or heavily bleeding wounds-see a REAL doctor for bleeding]; BUG STINGS OR BITES: tobacco spit to the site or a baking soda & water paste, STOMACH-ACHE: peppermints; MENSTRUAL CRAMPS: chamommile tea; BAD EYESIGHT: eat more butterbeans; SMALL KITCHEN BURNS: juice of a widows-knife stalk slathered over the burn-dont bust the blisters.

Rules of the Road Poem

Jeff Tiffany — 15 Oct 2004 3:19:06 GMT

My family is looking for the words to the poem, song , verses, to "Rules Of the Road" . My Grandfather had worked For - Great Lakes Shipping In the 20's & 30's

The first part starts off like " Red to Red"
"Green To Green"

Any help would be greatly appreciated
Thanks Jeff

Rebel Poetry by Sergeant of the "Stonewall Brigade" near Winchester, VA

ldenaut — 13 Jun 2005 5:59:04 GMT

REBEL POETRY

The following stanzas were found on the person of a rebel Sergeant of the "Stonewall Brigade," recently captured by our troops near Winchester, VA:

Come stack arms, men! Pile on the railsâ€”

Stir up the campfire bright,

No matter the canteens fails,

Weâ€™ll make a roaring night!

Here Shenandoah brawls along,

Their burley Blue Ridge echoes strong,

To swell the brigades rousing song

Of "Stonewall Jacksonâ€™s Way."

We see him now-the old slouched hat

Cocked oâ€™er his eye askewâ€”

The shrewd dry smileâ€”the speech so pat,

So calm, so blunt, so true.

The "Blue Light Elder" known â€˜em well;

Says he,"thatâ€™s Banks, heâ€™s fond of shell,

Lord save his soul!â€”weâ€™ll give him"â€”well,

Thatâ€™s Stonewall Jacksonâ€™s way."

Silence! ground arms! kneel all! caps off!

Old Blue Lightâ€™s going to pray,

Strangle the feel that dares to scoff!

Attention! itâ€™s his way!

Appealing from his native sod

In forma pauperis to Godâ€”

"Lay bare thy arm, strectch forth thy rod,"

"Amen!" Thatâ€™s Stonewallâ€™s way."

Heâ€™s in the saddle now! Fall in!

Steady! the whole brigade!

Hillsâ€™s at the ford, cut off; weâ€™ll win

His way out, ball and blade,

What matter if our shoes are worn?

What matter if our feet are torn?

"Quickstep! weâ€™re wit him before dawn!"

Thatâ€™s "Stonewall Jacksonâ€™s way. "

The sunâ€™s bright lances ront the mists

Of morningâ€”and, by George!

Hereâ€™s Longstreet struggling in the lists,

Hemmed in an ugly gorge.

Pope and his Yankees, whipped before,

"Bayâ€™nets and grape!" hear Stonewall roar,

"Charge, Stuart! Pay off Ashbyâ€™s score,"

Is "Stonewall Jacksonâ€™s way."

Ah! Maiden, wait, and watch, and yearn,

For news of Stonewallâ€™s band!

Ah! Widow read with eyes that burn

That ring upon thy hand.

Ah! Wife, sew on, pray on, hope on!

Thy life shall not be all forlorn!

The foe had better neâ€™er been born,

That gets in "Stonewallâ€™s way."

French Sampler Inquiry / Hanseatic League

yveham11 — 14 May 2005 9:59:00 GMT

My mother's family was originally from France, but imigrated to south Louisiana from Nova Scotia. She was given a sampler years ago by one of her aunts. The sampler is the alphabet in different cases, however the letter W is missing from all three rows of the alphabet. From my own research I've discovered that the french language rarely uses the W, and when used it is pronounced as a V. If anyone has any feedback or any info I would love to hear it?

"Getting Over Spree"

klsmith781 — 5 Apr 2004 11:12:30 GMT

I have a photo of my husband's grandmother, probably around 1910. The photo is of 6 young women, probaby around 15-20 years old. One is pouring (coffee?) from a coffee pot into a cup, another is pouring from a little brown jug into a tea cup, another is pouring something from a milk can into a small pail. One has a shallow basin and seems to be holding a purse in the other hand. My husband's grandmother is holding a van in front of her and appears to be holding a doll. All are wearing hats. The photo appears to be behind the house, barn and a shed (and a fence). There is a horse drawn buggy sitting beside the barn. A sign in front of these girls says: GETTING OVER SPREE. Does anyone know what a getting over spree is? Have these girls finished school and now consider themselves adults?

Somethings about Dallas Oregon

smalltowngirl — 15 May 2005 10:32:34 GMT

Somethings you might not know about the Little town of Dalls Oregon.

1: It used to be the leading town of the KKK on the West side of the Mississippi River.
2:That proves why there are so little Blacks (or African American) in Dallas
3:That's why there are so may ghosts in this town and most are Black (or African American)
4:Dallas High School used to be the meeting place of the KKK
5:They used to hang people in the courtyard outside the City's Clock Tower, must and all most all of them were Blacks (or African Americans). (though I am not sure were the burning took place, will post if I find out)
6:The Middle School, home of the Wildcats, was build over a graveyard and there are many ghosts there as well. I have heard many stories.

True ghost story

Gayle Tackett — 9 Feb 2005 11:34:47 GMT

I lived at Weeksbury Ky as a girl.I remember that there was man that sold moon shine he lived up the hollow. This man that we all new would go up there and get drunk and walk through the cemetery way in the night.So some of the men went to the cemetery and dug a very large hole like a grave.When he started to walk through he fell into the hole.The men cover with sheet jumped out and yelled what are you doing in my grave. And the man in the hols stood up and yelled right babk at them. More to the point what are you doing out of your grave. That was a big joke back then. God.

Cemetery Rituals

djg769 — 25 Jul 2005 9:57:05 GMT

anyone have any experience with strange ritualas being preformed at old cemeteries?
I found something and Im interested in learning.

Ida and Rebecca Dye's Recipes

LauraNellePolandMallett — 25 Mar 2005 12:37:50 GMT

wearing a dozen roses around your neck?

robocoastie — 15 Jan 2005 5:35:46 GMT

while going through some items left by our grandmother we found an unknown photo in black and white and aged of a man in a tuxedo wearing around his neck covering his whole chest a dozen or more light colored roses all tied by ribbons.

anyone know what custom this is for?

It was inserted in a card which on its cover was cursively written:

N:r 1
its either that or:
N:r /
I'm leaning toward that being a 1 though.

Great-Grandfather Harris

jamabel — 20 Apr 2006 2:40:08 GMT

My dad told the story that my great-grandfather, James Wilkerson Harris, who emigrated to the USA from England in 1868 played Stradivarius violin for the royalty of England. He made an imitation violin, left it in England and came to America with the real Strad. I would like to hear from anyone who might can confirm this story. Thank you.

Meaning of a phrase

trialsz — 11 Oct 2004 6:22:36 GMT

I recently found a handwritten letter written by my great grandfather dated 1914. He was writing to his nephew and mentioned that he had "...found me a widow. She's a real piss cutter." I have asked several people, including my dad, who say they have heard that phrase before but don't know what it means. Does anyone know what that means?

Finding out you are married to a distant cousin

Lar56sel — 13 Jul 2003 10:40:53 GMT

I was just wondering how many others are finding out your spouse is a cousin. My husband and I share a GGGGGGG grandparents. It was a weird feeling at first. My husband said we are all related. It is in the Hostelter in PA where our roots meet. We are in Oregon.

Swedish Tradition - Fruit Soup/Fruktsoppa

Jamie — 11 Apr 2004 9:51:13 GMT

I am trying to do some research on the Scandinavian dish called Fruit Soup (Fruktsoppa) for my Scandinavian Immigration class. My grandma and great-grandma both made this dish but don't know the tradition or history behind it. If anyone could provide any kind of information or point me in a direction to look, it would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
~~ Jamie

Radio Station WTAG Cookbook compiled by Julie CHASE late 1950's

mindfoggs2 — 15 May 2005 11:13:15 GMT

Poem? Jingle? Eat 'em hides and all in Kansas

gratron — 8 May 2005 7:48:39 GMT

I cannot find the rest of this poem or jingle that my father used to recite (He was from Missouri, I don't know if this was a put down of Kansas or just the facts about poor farmers.) What I remember went: They grow potatoes small; they eat them hides and all (pause) in Kansas. I think it had music, too but he was no singer! This is genealogical folk history in our family because we lived in a Scandinavian community and my father was German and a Southerner which made anything unusual we said or did a great curiosity. I tried this at lyrics.com and poets.org where the literary poems are and found nothing.

Hearing/Seeing the Unknown

galesali70984861572 — 15 Sep 2004 3:49:58 GMT

Dr. Sheppard's Pokeberry Ink Recipe

Terri Anne Hastings — 7 Feb 2005 4:23:47 GMT

You can make it.

Authentic recipes from the 19th century:

This is a farm recipe from Dr. and Mrs. John Mosby Sheppard
of Henrico County, Virginia. Their family legend has it that Union Major General George Armstrong Custer tied his horse to a cedar tree right in front of the farmhouse.

Pick ripe pokeberries. Crush them in a bowl using a potato masher. Pick out the skins before straining the juice.
Careful of the juice stains.

Another good recipe is for sweet butter. Put one cup of heavy whipping cream--along with a marble--in a jar with a tight-fitting lid. Shake it hard until the cream separates. Separation is the right answer. Pour off the liquid buttermilk. Rinse your butter under running water. Spread it on fresh bread.

Old Newspaper Recipes

BWarner3423 — 7 Aug 2004 11:48:44 GMT

Hoknes Family Folklore

amber — 22 Jun 2004 10:19:21 GMT

anyone know any stories or info on the Hoknes family ?

"Filiopietistic"

JanaRobertson — 3 Jun 2004 9:43:16 GMT

(I apologize I don't really know where to post this but just HAD to!) I just learned of this word today - I was told it meant "To admire and revere one's ancestry" so I thought I just had to memorize how to spell it. When I search for more information on the word, however it often sounds like more like a derogatory term used to mean "excessive" or "obsessive". Hmmmmm maybe it still pertains to me sometimes . . . . .
Has anybody else seen this word used?

Peaslee/Peasley Stories

KAPeaslee — 15 Apr 2004 7:45:39 GMT

if anybody knows of or has any peasley/peaslee stories, i would love to hear them. eventually i would like to write a book with them.
you can send them to the following addresses:

soxfan518@yahoo.com
or
martyzgurl@excite.com

thank you to you all..

sincerely
kim peaslee

A.W. Gammer... excerpt of his travels in Wisconsin

Jamie Suzanne Essy — 30 Dec 2002 8:02:04 GMT

Im currently working on my GGrandfather's bio...this is a few paragraphs...
1895
I enjoyed traveling in Wisconsin..while I was in LaCrosse I boarded a caboose going east. I visited 5 towns that morning ending in Trempauleau, a little town near the banks of the Old Mississippi. As we pulled into the station I noticed many fine looking ladies..I handed 2 heavy grips to a baggage man for some hotel(there were 3 in town) I picked the lady I was going to approach; she was a pretty blond w/blue eyes...I said to her "Hello, it's been a long time since I saw you", but she couldn't remember me, I told her I had grown a lot since then...We went walking toward town & came to a grocery store where a drayman was unloading a barrel of syrup but it got away from him and broke all over the sidewalk..we kept walking until we got to where she lived..we sat on the top step and was looking through the trees at the Mississippi, the boats were well lighted/it was a beautiful sight. I just couldnt get away until after 11pm & then I went to find the hotel that had my grips.
I was in Madison a few days later; there is 4 beautiful lakes in & close to the city and you can see about 20 feet down to the bottom clearly.The fish were very tame but you had to play a little trick on them to make them that way.We used to make some sugar coated pills like Carter's and we used some stuff for the inside(I forget the name...it was a long word that started w/ a 'B' ) We'd drop those pills in one at a time & the fish would grab them. After a few minutes they would start coming to the surface and then would lay over on their side and we would pick them up & pet them. You'll laugh when I tell you but they were just intoxicated!! And in a few minutes they would scoot back home (if they could get loose from their admirers).........

ISO Recipes

Bill Pfitzer — 1 Mar 2004 11:19:32 GMT

I am looking for a lost family recipe. My grandmother owned a store called the Famous Cheese Company in the Dearborn/Detroit area,in the 1920's-1950's. When the company went out of business,the recipes were assumed lost. I was wondering if anyone could assist me in locating photos of the old store,& maybe learn where the recipes are now. I am also looking for pomegranate,gooseberry,watermelon,& dandelion wine,as well as tutti frutti,which my relatives said was made with brandy & fruit. If anyone can assist me in locating these recipes,please,email me.

ISO Jack the Ripper

Bill Pfitzer — 24 Feb 2004 11:55:28 GMT

I am researching the legendary criminal Jack The Ripper. I am trying to locate sanitorium & asylum records,from England & the United States,for the period of 1400-1930.This would include journals,notes,notebooks,artwork,photos,paintings,of William Sickert & records of Michael Ostrog,as well as other cemetery photos,burial records,& tombstone photos & epitaph information of alleged suspects,victims of crimes similar to those committed by him,as well as information regarding the victims of the crime-Catherine Eddowes,Annie Chapman,Elizabeth Stryde,& any others. If anyone can assist me in obtaining this information,or knows someone who might,please,email me.

Appalachian Expression, "Slow time."

TomTucker965 — 16 Oct 2003 7:51:23 GMT

While transcribing an oral history interview, the speaker (now deceased) said, "They would get through with the candy drawing, then it’d be midnight. Way back then, in the olden times, slow time, it’d be midnight after they’d carry on with their dancing and their music."
Can someone tell me what was meant by the expression, "slow time" as it was used by mountain folk in Tennessee in the early 1900s? Thanks. Tom Williams, Hixson, Tennessee.

Looking for recipes from Keytesville, Chariton County

lemchar1 — 11 Jan 2005 10:41:43 GMT

I am directly descended from the following families from Keytesville: O.B. Anderson and Julia Scott; James Veach and Mahala Morris; and William Smith and Mary Ann Heryford. Other relatives in the area included Reddings, Wilsons, Whites and Colemans.

I’m in the process of creating a family cookbook as a gift for my mother and aunts and would like to find some “typical” Keytesville/Chariton County recipes to include. If anyone can help out with this I would really appreciate it.

Dad Shoots His Toe Off

mellsansoucie1 — 15 Jan 2004 9:51:34 GMT

My grandma was a great ol gal, but got off on scaring everyone with haint tales and such. When my dad was young they lived in a house with no electricity, 13 kids, and firearms. Bad combo, especially if one's mother had just scared the heck out of you with haint tales. My dad was laying in bed one night after grandmas tale of the floating head. The moon wasn't full, but bright enough to illuminate the window at the end of dad's and uncle johnnies bed. Uncle Johnnie started yelling saying the floatin head was outside the window and my dad grabbed the rifle kept under the bed and shot at the object. Come to find out it was my dad's own toe sticking out of the covers propped on the footboard! He shot his own toe off!!

I'm sure it wasn't funny at the time, but it sure gets me giggling :)

song....anniversery of weyburn

p.d.beardow — 26 Oct 2003 7:47:12 GMT

looking for words of song ....believe written by grade 5 teacher for the anniversery of weyburn." way down south in saskatchewan where the prairie breezes blow.....where the souris river flows..."
can any one help???

Sir William Johnson

ItsMeCrazy — 24 Jan 2002 5:54:31 GMT

My family has a story that links us to Sir William Johnson of NY (Indian Superintendent).

Family Lineage:
Isaac Johnson + Elizabeth Covey -- NY

Mary Johnson + William Barnhart -- OH

Julie

Meaning of Token

Dixie Richardson — 18 Oct 2003 11:14:32 GMT

My Pa. German great-grandmother believed when her first little son died that he came back to get his little brother who subsequently died. She claimed to have heard his footsteps on the stairs and referred to this as a "token" or a similar-sounding word. I haven't been able to determine the word or its meaning. Is this bit of old-world folklore familiar to
anyone else?

Trying to find out if the story of Peter Kilgore is true: Cobb Co. GA.

L. Lin Jackson — 18 Oct 2003 11:13:05 GMT

I have been researching my family history, I am related to Peter Kilgore- it is said that he was refugeed in 1864 from Cobb Co. GA. to Roanoke, AL. How would I find out if that was true and the story behind it. Thank you for your help!
Lin

George Hill Ledger

janemft — 18 Oct 2003 11:12:40 GMT

My husband's aunt died and while cleaning out her apartment in Ypsilanti Michigan, we found a book with "recipes" of how to dye cotton and wool. The book was written in 1815 by Henry W. Edwards in the District of Connecticut. I believe the book to be written in 1815. There are 67 letters in the book that tell how to dye in many colors. On the first page of the book the name George Hill Property is written with the date of 19th November 1816.

We know of no family connection of this book to my husband's family, but there may be one. We do not know how my husband's aunt acquired the book.

If you know anything about this book, I would love to hear from you.

Traipen (blood sausage) recipe

bobarens58 — 12 Apr 2005 11:51:34 GMT

Many of you have helped me with my Luxembourg genealogy. Now I have food question. When I was I child on the farm in SW Minnesota in 1940's we Luxembourgers made blood sausage (traipen) that included cabbage and something called 'bonacrutchen' (sp ?). I don't have the recipe and would like to have it. Can anyone help me?
Bob Arens
lavaeandbob@cs.com

Old Regular Baptist Minutes from Preacher Roy Mullins

Linda — 20 Sep 2003 12:56:14 GMT

I wanted to let anyone know, who might be interested, that we have the minutes from Preacher Roy Mullins. We will be archiving them.

People archived so far are...
Charlie Kennedy
Matilda England
Eli Kennedy
Carrie Baker
W.T. Kennedy
more to come soon...

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Appalachian_Heritage/
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Levitation

jmanzo152 — 28 Mar 2003 12:56:35 GMT

Preface: My grandmother was born 1888 (to parents having emigrated recently from Germany) in the Hell's Kitchen area of NYC. Her formal education went no further than the 3rd. grade. She went to work in a sweat-shop at age nine. She was a pragmatic, no-nonsense woman, not given to fancy or whimsy. If a topic was mentioned remotely approaching anything supernatural, she would immediately pooh-pooh it as "baloney"...something "the Irish or English made-up."

Content:
As a young married woman, she would sometimes visit her mother-in-law, living nearby. This woman's educational achievements were similar to my grandmother's. She was known as "Grandma Letty" and of English descent. She also had the reputation of not being the warm-fuzzy type.

My grandmother swore to me till the day she died, (that) on several occasions Grandma Letty leaned over a heavy oak dining room table, placed her palms flat on the table's surface, and levitated it across the room. Upon completing the task, she would collapse in a chair, apparently exhausted from the ordeal.

I never found my grandmother telling a lie, though her stubborness was widely noted, and she made a good number of folks angry at her. So, I don't believe she was attempting to trick me. Every piece of oral family history she related, I've found to be accurate. BTW, the levitation "story" was corroborated by a distant cousin, claiming her mother witnessed these events as well.

Sooooooo, I want to know what really happened! My straight-laced grandmother presenting me with a story that appears to contradict her own belief system; and her mother-in-law, uneducated and dirt poor, finding the time and motivation to learn such a "trick" if that's what it was.

I'd appreciate any feed-back offering possible explanations re. this phenomena.

Joe

Brave Kizzie

loreleyes20011 — 5 Jul 2003 2:58:08 GMT

Daddy said once when grandfather was out a troop of Yankee soldiers came to her house (probably for food and rest). As they were leaving, one soldier happened to notice a braided bridle my great grandmother had recently completed for her husband. As he reached to take it, Kizzie grabbed a 2.4 and lambasted him across the head. The captain of the troop made him leave her and the bridle be. Daddy said years later, after my grandfather Jim had shot his brother's assassin that she kept vigil each night and if she heard a noise she took the shotgun and walked all around the outside of the house daring whoever was there to show himself.

Old Tull Family Recipe

Reba Tull — 4 Jul 2003 2:08:15 GMT

I just wanted to pass on this old family recipe my grandmother (Imogene Tull of Chesapeake, MD) used to make. She always told me that all of her family made it. Imagine what the family reunions must have been like! Yummy! Anyway, it's for Lard Cake - and it's delicious.

TULL FAMILY LARD CAKE

Two cups of lard
Two cups of sugar
Twelve egg yolks
1/2 cup raisins (optional)

Mix well. Pour into a pan. Bake at 350 degrees for 35 minutes. Let cool. Slice into pieces and enjoy. Goes very well with Mountain Dew.

1917-1918 Flu Epidemic in Sevier Co. AR Story Family

Joy Powell — 28 Jun 2003 3:25:36 GMT