Latter-day Saints clergy and churches - Family History & Genealogy Message Board

Pontiac Michigan 1833 Branch

ljames621 — 6 Oct 2008 1:57:35 GMT

Does anyone know if there is a list of all the earliest members of this branch of the church which was formed in 1833? After searching high and low for information concerning Almon Bathrick, I googled his name to find him baptizing a young girl (Mary Curtis) in March of 1833 with Samuel Bent confirming at this branch. I am trying to figure out who Almon's first wife was.
Thanks!! Lisa

Mormon ties - looking for resources - One Giant Puzzle!

JDJames89 — 14 Sep 2008 4:21:00 GMT

All right, this one is going to be a whopper. I have been racking my brain with this family for years and have come up with many compelling pieces of a puzzle, but I just cannot manage to put it all together. I thought put what I have out there and offer it to the Ancestry Community in hopes to find some sort of solution. I’ve already posted parts of it individually, trying to figure this out on my own, but here’s everything together and all the information I have on two families with some sort of definite tie…although I can’t concretely prove.

First, let me begin with the information I have on my family going back, all concrete. Mary A. (Lindsay) (Bacheler) Smith was my great great great great grandmother. She was born about 183- somewhere in Canada to parents John Lindsay (according to her death certificate) of Scotland (according to death certificate and census records for her and what appears to be her brothers) and Sarah (UNKNOWN MAIDEN NAME) Lindsay, who was born about 1811 in Ireland (1860 Placer County, California Census).

An interesting account of Mary’s life is given in her obituary 1908:

January 19, 1908
The Anaconda Standard
LIFE WELL SPENT ENDS
MRS. M. A.. SMITH DEAD
LONG PROMINENT IN CHURCH AND
TEMPERANCE WORK.
A BEAUTIFUL CHARACTER
Leaves behind her many who dearly
loved her—Did world of good
in Butte, where she lived since
first railroad.
Butte lost a sincere and highly esteemed
Christian worker when Mrs.
Mary A. Smith, wife of Samuel G.
Smith, peacefully passed away at the
family home, at 803 West Copper
street, last night, after an invalidism
of eight months. She died without
pain, her near relatives at the bedside.
Mrs. Smith was one of the founders
of the first free public library of
Butte. She was also prominent in the
temperance movement and one of the
early members of the W. C. T. U. Few
women have enjoyed a greater and
more fruitful activity in church life.
She will be mourned by many who
learned to love and honor her. Mrs.
Smith had reached the ripe age of 72
years.
Early in the West.
Born in Canada, Mrs. Mary Smith
moved Into Illinois early in life and
later went to California with her
children behind an ox team back
in 1852. Butte became the family
home in 1881. Coming in on one of the
first passenger trains over the rails,
just laid, of the old Utah & Northern
railway, now the Oregon Short Line.
Mrs. Smith had since lived in this city
and throughout her residence has
made opportunities looking to the best
welfare of those about her. Her life
was an example of Christian sacrifice
and effort. She did a world of
good in many little ways that will
never be known except to those who
were benefited. There are scores who
will never know that it was through
Mrs. Smith's efforts that they were
blessed. Her beautiful character was
one that might well be emulated.
Four children mourn this Christian
woman—W. C. Batchelor, for nine
years cashier of the First National
bank and as many more assistant
postmaster of the Butte office and now
a resident of Seattle. Mrs. Herman
Hauswirth, Miss Rhea Smith and G.
L. Smith, secretary and treasurer of
the Butte Copper company, all of this
city. The late Mrs. Robert Hauswirth
was another daughter. Mrs. Smith Is
also survived by two sisters in California,
and two brothers In Nevada.
The funeral will start at 1:30 o'clock
tomorrow afternoon from the home of
Mrs. H. Hauswirth, 717 West Quartz
street, proceeding to the First Presbyterian
church, where services will be
held.

Now, these dates are most likely estimates, probably given by one of her children (her son Wilbur Bacheler is the informant on her death certificate) and cannot be taken for exact information, but other sources prove it to be relatively accurate. Unfortunately, because of the time frame and the fast moving with which the Lindsays family moved, I cannot find a record I know is them for sure until 1860.

Taking what information I have managed to collect, I can make a rough timeline. The family came to the U.S. between about 1841 and 1843 (years between Jacob and John Lindsay’s births according to 1850 and 1860 censuses, and 1842 is recorded on what could possibly be a later census record for eldest brother David). There is a slim chance that they might be recorded in a very early Canadian census as they were there from at least 1834-1841, but I have come across nothing as of yet, and I don’t know exactly where in Canada they lived (although there was only a small part of the country civilized in the 1830’s-1840’s). Also, because boarder crossing records don’t start until 1895, I can’t find record of their crossing, but it does appear they went directly to Illinois and lived there from about 1843 (just before Joseph’s birth) to about 1850 (just before Alice’s birth in “Mo” [Missouri?]). As of 1850, the family seems to be on the way West.

The family then, doesn’t show up for certain until the 1860 census of Secret Ravine, Placer Co, California. Mary is living with her first husband, Chauncey Darwin Bacheler, her mother, and apparently all but one of her siblings in Secret Ravine, California. Bacheler and the oldest Lindsay boys are listed as miners, which makes sense with local history and information and short biographies I have gathered on C.D. Bacheler.

Information from this census is:
Name birth year (approximate) location
Sarah Lindsay 1811 Ireland
David “ 1833 Canada
John “ 1835 “
Mary A “Batchelor” 1841 (this one seems off) “
C.D. “Batchelor” 1832 Ill
Joseph Lindsay 1844 “
Elizabeth “ 1846 “
Alice 1850 “Mo”

It appears that the father John Lindsay is gone. I know nothing of this man, except for his name and birth LOCATION, and have never seen him on a record except for Mary A’s death certificate. I believe he might have died just prior to the family coming west in 1850, perhaps before 1848 as I will explain in time.

After this, the Lindsay family unit breaks up. I know that Mary separated with C.D. Bacheler after having two children and remarries to a man named Samuel G. Smith, with whom she is living in Elko County, Nevada, as of 1880. Shortly after that, she came to Butte, Montana, where she lived out the remainder of her life. I have a hard time finding record of the other siblings that I can link for sure, although I have compelling records that might be for brothers David, John and Jacob in Elko Co, Nevada. I have been able to find absolutely nothing on the girls, aside from the fact that two of them are still alive and living in California in 1908. If anyone recognizes any of the Lindsay kids, please let me know. Even mother Sarah Lindsay seems to disappear.

Having come to a dead end, I kept looking and came across an 1850 Census for Weber Co, Utah (after research, it turns out the census was actually taken in 1851 and is sometimes referred to as the 1851 census, which is important in my case), in which it appears the Lindsay kids are all living together, and supplies the following information:

Name birth year (approximate) location
James “Grayham” 1805 Ireland
Christiana “ 1794 Penn
Hannah “ 1821 N J
Sarah “ 1813 Ireland
Eliza “ 1826 Penn
Robert “ 1829 “
George “ 1832 “
Mary “ 1834 “
James “ 1836 “
Margaret “ 1838 Ill
Samuel “ 1842 Ill
Augusta “ 1848 Iowa
Christiana “ 1849 “Des” (meaning Deseret/Utah)
John K “Jimieson” 1842 Penn
Julia A Reed 1839 NY
Matilda “Lindsey” 1834 Ca (presumably Canada)
David “ 1835 “
John “ 1837 “
Mary A “ 1838 “
Jacob “ 1841 “
Joseph “ 1843 Ill
Elizabeth 1845 Ill

The birth order, approximate years, and odd combination of birth locations makes me certain these are the children. Ca is said to be California by Ancestry’s transcription, but given the time period and the census keeper’s inconsistent abbreviations (what starts out as “Deseret” becomes “Des” halfway through, “Indian Territory” to “Ind. Ter.” And “Canada” to “Can.”) Obviously, they are living with another family, which makes sense in 1851 as they were on their way west. I thought at first, and still consider, that the children were just staying temporarily at the house as they moved to California, to join their parents who were somewhere or another. I searched for John and Sarah perhaps somewhere else in 1860, but had absolutely no luck.

I decided to look into James Graham, to maybe figure out any sort of relationship he could had to the Lindsays. Since his birth date was close to my Sarah Lindsay’s and they both come from Ireland, I thought perhaps they were siblings or cousins or relatives of some sort, explaining why the children would stay with Graham. I have found no proof one way or the other on this theory, but do not discredit it.

I did learn a lot about Graham, however, and it does not appear he had a sister that could be Sarah. Other information includes the following short biography:

“Name: James Graham
Birth Date: 11 Oct 1804
Birth Place: Enniskillen, Fermanagh, Ireland
Parents: Robert and Anna Barrow Graham
Death Date: 09 Dec 1857
Death Place: Ogden, Weber, Utah
Arrival: 7 Aug 1849, Howard Egan Independent Co.
Spouse: Mary Ann Butler
Marriage Date: abt 1824
Marriage Place: possibly Pennsylvania
Spouse's Birth Date: 18 Apr 1804
Spouse's Birth Place: New Castle Co., Pennsylvania
Spouse's Death Date: Aug 1846
Spouse's Death Place: Iowa

Married 2nd: Orilla Crandall (Div)-No children Date: 3 Feb 1846 , Nauvoo, Hancock, Illinois Born: 29 Jan 1803 , Cramma, Northumberland, Upper Canada

Married 3rd: Sarah Thompson -No children Date: 28 Feb 1848 , Winter Quarters, Nebraska Born: 10 Sep 1810 , Newton, Camaraddy, Derry, Ireland

Married 4th: Hannah Tucker Reed Date: 9 Sep 1849 , Salt Lake City, Utah Born: 10 May 1821 Lower Eversham, Burlington, New Jersey Died: 11 Dec 1904 , Bennington, Bear Lake, Idaho

Married 5th: Christiana Nixon Gregory -No children Date: 09 Sep 1849 , Salt Lake City, Utah Born: 19 Mar 1793 , Kensington, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

Little is known of James ' early life. After his first marriage, they lived in Laurel Hill, Chester, Pennsylvania , where at least six of their 11 children were born. It is not known when they joined the Church, although they may have been living in Hancock County prior to the exodus. Their son, Robert , was baptized in 1841 . They were probably baptized in about 1840 while living in Bear Creek, Hancock, Illinois, a rural town outside Nauvoo . His first wife, Mary Ann , died in Iowa in 1846 enroute to Utah . He married his third wife in Winter Quarters . The family continued on to the Valley. On 9 September 1849 , James married Hannah and her mother, Christiana . He and his family were the first settlers of Riverdale , in Weber County . He and his sons laid claim to all the land between Uintah and Wilson's Lane on the west side of the Weber River . They worked the land for many years. He died there.

Children of 1st wife: Eliza Jane , b. 6 Nov 1825 , Laurel Hill, Chester, Pennsylvania . Md. John Pack . D. Feb 1865 . Ann Isabelle , b. Jun 1827 , Laurel Hill, Pennsylvania . Robert , b. 8 Feb 1829 , Laurel Hill, Pennsylvania . Md, 1859 , Mary Ellen Reed . D. 27 Jan 1888 , Millville, Cache, Utah . George Butler , b. 10 Mar 1831 , Laurel Hill, Pennsylvania . Md. 1856 , Phebe Ann Allen . D. 18 Sep 1906 , Almo, Cassia, Idaho . Elenor , b. 1833 , Laurel Hill, Pennsylvania . D. 1834/5 , Pennsylvania . Mary Elizabeth , b. 8 Oct 1836 , Laurel Hill, Pennsylvania . Md. 1854 , Elihu Moroni Allen . D. 2 Jul 1906 , Huntsville, Utah . Margaret , b. 1837 , Hancock Co., Illinois . Md. Jason Reid Luce . James , b. 29 Jun 1838 , Hancock Co., Illinois . D. Jul 1861 , Weber Co., Utah . Joseph Smith , b. Aug 1840 , Bear Creek, Hancock, Illinois . D. 19 Oct 1849 . Samuel , b. 7 Jun 1844 , Nauvoo, Illinois . D. 24 Jul 1861 , Weber Co., Utah . Brigham , b. Apr 1846 , Nauvoo, Illinois .

Children of 4th wife: Christianna , b. 15 Jun 1850 , Ogden, Utah . Md. Franklin Edward Weaver . D. 1927 . William Benona , b. 24 Mar 1852 , Riverdale, Utah . Md. Margaret Hope Williams . D. 18 Mar 1926 . Joy Belnap”

I find this “Sarah Thompson” to be very interesting. She was born about the same time as my Sarah (UNKNONW) Lindsay, (according to what must have been on the marriage record, anyhow) in Ireland as well. I don’t know my Sarah’s maiden name, but it could very well have been Thompson. I’ve been in contact with a few different descendants of James Graham’s and his wives, but no one seems to know anything more about this Sarah Thompson aside from her birth and marriage dates.

There are a couple of reasons that I believe Sarah Thompson might be my Sarah Lindsay. James and Sarah reportedly had no children, and it seems odd to me that someone Sarah Thompson’s age wouldn’t have been married at least once before, or have already have children before marrying in 1848.

I’ve done research and found that the other two individuals on the 1850 Weber census, after all of the Grahams and before the Lindseys (John “Jimieson” and Julia Reed), are children and relatives of James’s wives from previous marriages (making them step-children and in-laws). If the Lindseys were perhaps Sarah Thompson’s children from a previous marriage, this would fit right in.

Also, by 1860, when my Sarah Lindsay and her children are seen in California for sure, James Graham had passed away, and his family is seen still living in Weber without him. Most of the children were old enough to be out on their own, but all of the wives EXCEPT Sarah Thompson are still present. The Lindsey kids are nowhere to be seen in the household either because they are in California.

I think that Sarah Thompson might have, before or after James Graham’s death, left to live with her children who were old enough to support her, and maybe went back to the name Lindsay. Or, she might have still been going by Graham and the census taker failed to make the difference in his record. IF, that is, Sarah Thompson and my Sarah Lindsay are one and the same.

The problem is, I can’t find evidence to prove or disprove the theory. I would be happy either way. If someone could help me find out more about my Sarah Lindsay or Sarah Thompson, I would be immensely happy. I would like to see if I can’t see when and where either of them died.

I’ve done some research in the Mormon migration to Utah in the 1850’s. There is no doubt in my mind that the Lindsay’s, even if they aren’t married into James Graham’s family, traveled with the Mormon’s as they went from Illinois to California at the time they were as well.

I’ve looked into land immigration records and can account for James, his two eldest sons, and both of his wives after Sarah Thompson. The problem is, I don’t know when or with what party the rest of the Graham children – those from James and his first wife’s marriage – came across. It was obviously after 1848 (James didn’t leave for Utah with Egan until 1849) and before 1851 (when the Weber Co census was taken), but I cannot find them explicitly. Since James’s first wife died just before he married Sarah Thompson in 1848 and he didn’t get married again until he was in Utah, Sarah Thompson most likely took care of the Graham children, and, I’m sure, traveled with them when they all came to meet their father and two brothers in Utah. If I could find out what party they traveled with, I might be able to find the Lindsey children, if Sarah is indeed Sarah Lindsay. If not, there should still be records of the Lindsays somewhere, as I am positive they traveled with one Mormon party whether or not they had any ties to James Graham.

I’m no novice at genealogy anymore (not an expert, but I’ve had a lot of experience by now), and I have been racking my brain for years now on this family, finding bits here and there that I can’t quite fit together, so I thought I’d give the Ancestry Community a try with ALL of the pieces I have and see if someone can’t help me make a concrete connection. There’s something there, I just know it, but it’s flitting just out of reach.

So, in short, I am trying to find all the information on ANY and ALL of the people mentioned to see if I can’t make the pieces fit together.

If anyone can help me, knows where I might find further information, or if there’s any other information I could possibly give, please let me know. Thank you all so much in advance. I hope I can finally make some sense of all of this.

Hanna/Illinois death

LorettaProffer46 — 19 Jul 2008 1:58:28 GMT

I've been looking for Ervin Jackson Hanna who I have SS5-records on it says he he was borned in Jacksonville,Calhoun Co.Alabama and have found parents names (Father Ervin Hanna Jr.died 2002 Florida-? where mother is)I know Ervin J.Hanna in buried in same cemetery as father and brother(Brevard Memorial Park Fl.)/I need to know for sure he died in Joliet,Wills Co.,Illinois and was borned in Alabama,the only thing I have that says this maybe true is a bad obit. this man was (B.Sept.1,1943 D.Nov.6,1970)Any help I'd be greatful for thank you for your time.
Tom

Hanna/Illinois death

LorettaProffer46 — 19 Jul 2008 1:55:51 GMT

In search of Steenie Bergman

crystalpb — 2 Jul 2008 12:50:27 GMT

Does anyone happen to have a copy of the book In search of Steenie Bergman ?
Thank you.
Crystal
crystalpb@msn.com

SMITH FAMILY

Dorristx — 11 Apr 2008 4:13:05 GMT

My husband's family lived in Sandusky Co. Ohio, they migrated to northeast Indiana and handed down verbal history has been that the Smiths were part of Joseph Smith's caravan moving west when one of their members fell ill and died, the victim was buried near Clear Lake and the family decided to stay in the area.In the late 1800's a church was purchased from the Coventers by the Smiths and was always called the Saints Church until about 1920 and it was called RLDS. My husband's father was an elder in the church and in doing research on this Smith family I have found that many descendants and related families are members of the LDS today, my question;how can I find if the story of the family ancestors were really part of Joseph Smith's Caravan that was moving west from Ohio?

Houston Texas Wards

nanablue2004 — 10 May 2007 10:48:39 GMT

I am trying to locate a Glenn Smith(or his family) who in Sept 1949 performed the marriage ceremony for my parents(deceased).
He is shown on the lic. as Elder Glenn Smith. I retrieved this info at the Harris county Clerk's office website. I do not have the original lic as yet.
My grandmother was LDS so I am just assuming that this was done in a Mormon church (not Temple as my father was Baptist).
I had photos of the marriage and it looked like it was at a church but the photos are no longer in my possession and may no longer exist.
If the above is not possible does anyone have a list of the Houston Texas Wards and their location?
I appreciate any help that anyone can give me.

Regards,

Connie

LDS Church in NSW, Australia, c1863

LauryWalkey — 3 Jul 2007 3:48:48 GMT

On 11 Sep 1863 Henry William WALKEY & Mary MOSS were married by the rites of the LDS Church in Saltwater Creek, District of Patrick's Plains, NSW, Australia. The Officiating Minister as listed on the marriage certificate was William SHARP.

I'm interested in finding out how and when the above couple might have become involved with the LDS Church.

Both were Christened infancy in the Anglican Church -- Henry at the parish church in St. Helier, Jersey, and Mary at the parish church in Falbrook, NSW.

It's unknown when Henry might have gone to Australia, and so it's also unknown if he might have converted while still on Jersey or once he arrived in Australia.

Was there an established following on Jersey during this time period? When was the church established in this part of NSW?

Thanks kindly.

Cheers,

Laury Walkey (Miss)
BC, Canada
polgara @ telus . net

Reorganized Church Records

Charles W. Frank — 14 Oct 2005 12:22:46 GMT

Does the Reorganized Church of Latter-Day Saints have its' own repository of records like the Salt Lake City Church? And if so, where/how does one access them?

Alexander Kelley family, Nauvoo

gvause41 — 16 Jul 2005 6:13:41 GMT

My husband's 4g Uncle was Alexander Kelley, married to Mary Holmes Davis. Their daughter was Sophronia Kelley married to 1st Mr. ? Eldridge ( child George Washington Eldridge b. on the trail) and 2nd William Stowell. Alexander Kelley was b Vt. and listed on the 1825 census of Potton, Quebec. He was converted when he came across the Mormons in Ohio?. His daughter , Sophronia was born in Potton, Quebec This information is from " A Sketch of My Mother's Life, Sophronia Kelley" by Martha Stowell Hill.
My husband's 4G Grandmother was Abiah Kelley b Vt , married George Davis, also listed on the 1825 census of Potton and I believe he was the brother of Mary Holmes Davis.
I am seeking any information on Alexander Kelley in the early days of the church , or other information relating to the Kelley family.
Thank you for your help.

LDS (Momon) Church in Cadillac, Wexford Co., Michigan - - when?

srchrtm — 24 May 2007 3:46:11 GMT

Can anybody tell me when a Stake was first established in Cadillac, Michigan (Wexford County), or vicinity? I am trying to pick up the trail of a collateral line which went there, after a family member married a member of the church.

I don't know for certain when that occurred, but suspect it was rather early (perhaps 1840s-1860s?) because of the scant amount of information which has come down in the family about this. Dates when a stake was established or when LDS families first settled there would help me focus the search.

The surname(s) involvced are not certain at this point, but could be Toms, Durfee, or Wright. Also possible, but less likely, are Pattison, Stark or Crawford. One of my challenges is that nobody seems to know exactly who it was, only that it was a family member. My grandfather, born in 1888, spoke of them as being an aunt and unlce, but I think it may have been a generation further back.

Thank you for any help.

How to Access the Resources for Early LDS Members

ljames621 — 19 Jun 2006 5:40:23 GMT

I have been lucky in that I have found my ancestors names in the Early LDS Member Index on Ancestry.com. I have been unlucky in trying to locate these resources. Some of the resources can be 'clicked' on, giving a short description of the resource. Yet others cannot be clicked on. For example, one ancestor, Almon Bathrick, has a resource listing of DHC 6:340. I have no idea what this means, and there is no way, that I can see, to find out. Can someone help me? Thanks!!
Lisa James

Contacts with former pastors of Midway Tabernacle, St. Paul, MN

BHicks1026 — 19 Dec 2006 3:10:26 GMT

I am writing a memoir of Midway Tabernacle, St. Paul, MN from 1906 and looking info on former pastors: R.J. Scott 1915, Harvey McAlister 1916, R. E. McAlister 1918, R. Sweazy 1921, L.R. Ooton, 1925, Edgar C. Steinberg 1927, Dawson 1931.

i need a miracle.

shirley williams — 4 Oct 2006 3:39:11 GMT

has new e/mail and phone number but both i get no reply.lives in west Australia Lower Kalgan.6330 Albany for now till his new house is built.gos to small church branch in 6330Albany has been a member in England, Bolton ,Lancaster and still is in Austrilia.its his birthday and i have never missed saying happy birthday.untill now could this possibly get to his small church in Australia his name is elder Paul Entwistle wife kath and 4 girls. in God we trust thankyou shirley.

F. Eugene BECKER 1822-2006 member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.

lorrifrench1 — 26 Apr 2006 2:08:20 GMT

F. Eugene BECKER, 1822-2006 , of Tyler , TX

Surnames:

Published: April 20, 2006 12:30 pm
F. Eugene Becker, 83, of Tyler, Texas, passed away April 17, 2006, in Tyler, Texas.

Mr. Becker was born to the late Leslie and Leatha O’Neal Becker May 14, 1922, in Rupert, Idaho. He was raised by his stepfather, Lee Johnston of Bonnie. He lived in Tyler, Texas, for seven years.

Mr. Becker was a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. He was an oil field worker and retired from A.L. Bowen Center in Harrisburg. He also worked as a supervisor for the Illinois Department of Mental Health. Mr. Becker was a sea bee in the U.S. Navy during World War II.

He was preceded in death by his parents; a son, Ronald E. Becker; a grandson, Ronnie Becker; a sister, Charlotte Garrison; and a brother, Newton Becker.

He is survived by his wife of 65 years, Pauline Gregory Becker of Tyler, Texas; a son, D. Roger Becker and wife Patricia of Tyler, Texas; a daughter-in-law, Thelma Becker of Chandler, Ariz.; eight grandchildren, Gregory K. Becker, Cristina A. Dwarzanin, Robert Becker, Juli Becker-Grant, Christian Becker, Sarah Letsinger, Jedidiah Becker and Emily Becker; nine great-grandchildren; two great-great-grandchildren; a brother, Ernest L. Johnston and wife Eflene of Mt. Vernon; sisters Roxie Williams of Trenton, Verla Grammar and husband Lonnie of Royalton and Gayla Lane and husband Lonnie of Indianapolis, Ind.

Graveside services for Mr. Becker will be at 1 p.m. Friday at Kirk Cemetery in Ina. Bishop Greg Schroeder will conduct the service. Visitation will be from 11 a.m. to 12:30 p.m. Friday at Johnston Funeral Home in Mt. Vernon.

For further information, you may contact Johnston Funeral Home at 242-0604.
Link to Obit with picture:

http://www.register-news.com/obituaries/local_story_11012300...

Who travelled from Monroe New York to Kirtland?

ljames621 — 24 Jul 2005 5:43:00 GMT

In 1830, Almon Bathrick lived in Monroe New York. He was married with a small son. By 1836, he has migrated to Lawrence County, ILL and married my great-great-great- grandmother. They go to Caldwell County, MO, then back to Nuavoo. I just recently figured out that Brigham Young was in Monroe New York and moved to Kirtland Ohio about 1831, taking several friends and family with him. Are there records of who those people were? Are there records for Kirtland such as baptisms for the dead or school students? I am trying to figure out who Almon's first wife was and what happened to her. Thank you.

JOHN FENTON SHIELDS

jfpfam — 13 Nov 2004 4:12:05 GMT

John Fenton Shields (1823 - 1908) was an important person within the Mormons church and I seek more information / photo of him.He married Mary Howells and then in 1870 Salt Lake City entered into a plural marriage with Eliza Elixzabeth Howard, a 17 year old from Middlesex, England.

Can you tell me whether there are any records of the wedding / marriage itself? Would it list who witnessed the marriage; for example, Eliza's parents?

Any information will be really appreciated.
Felicity Pawsey

information needed on family history centres

debby — 1 May 2005 10:03:02 GMT

I am trying to find out if there is a family history centre near Swansea, South Wales, UK as I want to have a look at the 1911 census for Ireland as these are not available online only at a family history centre or so I am told.
any information as to a location near me would be most gratefully received.
Thanks in advanced
Debby

John Williams' Voyages - Samoa

m_alofa — 22 Apr 2005 1:46:39 GMT

Can SKS direct me to the history of LDS "helpers".

Specifically history of John Williams in the South Pacific. I'm interested in Samoa.

Any knowledge of where in Great Britain would you leave on a ship, how long is voyage to Australia? Samoa?, where is first embarkation since leaving Great Britain? what is the duties of a "helper" on board? etc.

Above queries is just some general questions I always wonder about and I do not expect answers to any or all.

Any help or direction regarding dilemma I face when researching ancestors arriving on board John Williams' ship to Samoa is gratefully appreciated.

Manuia le aso, Soifua,
Have a nice day, Friend,

--manaia
(USA)
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Pierce, Brigman, Bathrick research

Lisa James — 31 Jan 2005 1:05:14 GMT

In 1834, Sarah Pierce marries Isaac Brigman in Lawrence County, Ill. In 1836, she marries Almon Bathrick (Butterick) in Lawrence County, Ill. She and Almon move to Caldwell County, MO in 1838 where Almon had purchased 40 acres from the government. In 1842, Almon pays taxes in Nauvoo. In 1844, he is mentioned in Times and Seasons as being called to the office of Elder in Illinois. I have just found out that in a book "Baptisms for the Dead, Nauvoo' that Almon is proxy for for his mother and his father in April 1844. Listed immediately after Almon, is Sarah Bathrick and she is listed as proxy for Isaac Brigman, First Husband. Which this book also lists Sarah's place of death in Franklin Idaho - and I know that isn't correct. I cannot find anything more about Almon after 1844, but Sarah is married to Nicholas Kelley and she and her son with Almon, Parley, are with Nicholas and are members of the original Morman Battalion in 1846. Naturally I have lots of questions - but I guess first is how can I find out what happened to Almon? I am assuming he died, but I don't know that for sure, and if he did, was it natural causes? What exactly does Proxy mean? Nicholas was different than the other members of the battalion because he joined on Aug 31, 1846 in Council Grove. I keep thinking there is some significance in that but I just can't figure it out.
Any help or guidance would be greatly appreciated. I live in rural Missouri and I don't know of any Family Search center in the area.

Parley Parker Pratt Sr. 1807-1857

eileencarmer79 — 19 Dec 2005 4:10:31 GMT

Can anyone tell me where exactly Parley Parker Pratt was from? I know that he was born in Burlington, Otsego County, NY. I want to know what part of Burlington. Parley Parker Pratt was a childhood friend of my ancestor William Steward and if I can find where Parley Parker Pratt lived in Burlington specifically it will help me in my research. Thank you.

Morman Webbs

Peggy Woolfork — 11 Feb 2005 2:15:39 GMT

Elijah B Webb abt 1827NY was married to Sylvia Cutler who I believe
had some involvement in the building of the temple in Independence Missouri. This family was also one of
the pioneer families that went to Lincoln and Payne Co
Oklahoma in 1894. Do you have any records of this Webb
and Cutler family other than the census. Many thanks.

19th century Mormons in Middlesex, England.

jfpfam — 13 Nov 2004 4:21:17 GMT

Can anyone tell me about the Church of the Latter-Day Saints in Middlesex, England during the mid C19th?
I know that many people were converted to the faith during that time and subsequently emigrated to the US.
Were there any Mormon churches in Middlesex at that time?
Did followers of Brigham Young come over from the US to establish churches?
I ask because an ancestor converted and I'd like to understand how the teachings of your church would have reached her. She was born in 1853, Southgate / Whetstone area of Middlesex.She emigrated and married in Salt Lake City in 1870 - aged 17 years - to John Fenton Shields.
Any information will be really appreciated.
Felicity Pawsey

Joseph Knight and Joseph Fielding Smith

SandraFirek — 14 Feb 2005 11:39:07 GMT

Joseph Knight was a closeassociate of Joseph F.Smithin the State of New York during the time Joseph Smith had his vision of the Morman Church.While researching my ownelusive Knight family, I have found Joseph Knightand Joseph Smith seemto have lived and travelled during the same time period and locations as my own Knightfamily did.I have looked for a genealgyreport on Joseph Knightsfamily and can't locate one.Hoping someone can help melocate information of hisAncestry and his descendents! Thank YouSandra

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