Social Security Death (Benefits) Index - SSDI - Family History & Genealogy Message Board

Re: Railroad Board?

lorriroughton — 2013-05-20 00:25:30Z

My father worked for Baltimore and Ohio Railroad for 20+ years until his death in 1973. They were able to supply me with his pay records for all 20 years, even showing the two breaks in employment for military service and a bout with TB.

Great resource.

Re: SSN lookup

jkingsley82 — 2013-05-03 19:08:50Z

License# KINGSJL233CD, Name: JOHNATHAN,KINGSLEY,SSN# 534046588

Re: Social Security bebefits PLEASE HELP WITH THIS QUESTION

sclark38731 — 2013-04-30 01:07:30Z

hIS NAME WAS Willie Davis born In Mississippi in 1897 or 1903. Not sure of the year. I think mom name is Sarah Davis and Dad name is Ananias Davis. HIs wife NAMES WAS Leila Harris, Roselett Hill, Mrytle Gay, Porter Lee Davis

Re: Social Security bebefits PLEASE HELP WITH THIS QUESTION

sclark38731 — 2013-04-30 01:07:12Z

Re: Social Security bebefits PLEASE HELP WITH THIS QUESTION

LHSwisher — 2013-04-29 23:42:19Z

As falsterden says, if you ask the forum to look up your grandfather's registration for you, someone can do that, but WE WOULD NEED HIS NAME. If you can add the place where he lived, his spouse or parents, that would help.

Re: Social Security bebefits PLEASE HELP WITH THIS QUESTION

sclark38731 — 2013-04-25 14:18:39Z

Thanks a lot he was born either 1897 or 1903

Re: Social Security bebefits PLEASE HELP WITH THIS QUESTION

falsterden — 2013-04-25 12:08:43Z

To add to the responses, Yes, all men of eligible age registered for the draft in World War I. When the draft began, all males aged 21 to 30 were required to register. Then in August 1918 Congress expanded the age range to include all men 18 to 45. Your library probably has a subscription to Ancestry.com if that helps. Alternately, if you ask the forum to look up your grandfather's registration for you, someone can do that, but would need his name. If you can add the place where he lived, his spouse or parents, that would help the forum find him in the draft rolls. If he was born as late as 1903, he was too young. Hope this helps.

Deteriorating usefulness of SSDI - Missing Entries

bgwiehle — 2013-03-26 12:50:11Z

In the last 2-3 years, there have been a number of changes in the ways that deaths are reported to the Social Security Administration and in the ways that the SSDI is made available to the public. I have been finding that more and more often, I find an obituary and no SSDI entry ever appears. Not just that the SSN itself is redacted, and that some of the SSDI databases are not updated as often as they used to be, but some deaths are never included.

I put together the following chart, which shows the effect. (counts are from Ancestry.com)

Has anyone gone into more detail to determine which states are under-reporting?

Re: Non-citizens and SS

Fahrbachy — 2013-03-25 05:21:20Z

Oh goodness. I had no idea. Well, then this is another dead end.

But thank you SO MUCH for this little postscipt. It's been quite some time since I requested anything from SS, so it's very good to know about this change.

Have a great week!

Re: Non-citizens and SS

LHSwisher — 2013-03-25 04:51:07Z

Note that with new Social Security Administration guidelines, they redact the parents' names from a number holder's SS-5 unless 1) your relative's DOB exceeds 100 years and you provide proof of death, or 2) your relative's DOB exceeds 120 years and you do not provide proof of death.

Re: Non-citizens and SS

Fahrbachy — 2013-03-25 03:39:12Z

Thanks. That's very helpful. I think I have his occupation info on his marriage record, so I'll see who his employer was and whether this angle is worth pursuing.

He's a bit of a brick wall, so anything that might give me a hint would be great.

Thanks again!

Cindy

Re: Non-citizens and SS

bgwiehle — 2013-03-24 13:21:50Z

My database has many immigrants from the 1895-1940 timeframe. I filtered the 1511 individuals with SSNs to exclude the U.S.-born and the known naturalized. This left 78 who were not naturalized by 1940. Admittedly, some already had their 1st papers, and could have naturalized before their deaths. And I lack most SSN application dates.
Since the purpose of the having a SSN was to track employment and retirement benefits, early application was likely more linked to type of work (big industry) than naturalization status.

Re: Social Security bebefits PLEASE HELP WITH THIS QUESTION

LHSwisher — 2013-03-12 03:27:30Z

See http://search.ancestry.com/search/db.aspx?dbid=6482 and check the "About" area (underneath the search boxes) for more information on these records.

Re: Social Security bebefits PLEASE HELP WITH THIS QUESTION

sclark38731 — 2013-03-11 03:40:01Z

Was all men drafted for the WW1 back then? Was this a Mandatory process for all mens?

Re: Social Security bebefits PLEASE HELP WITH THIS QUESTION

LHSwisher — 2013-03-10 00:13:18Z

If you're using Ancestry, then you have access to the World War I Draft Registrations.

Re: Social Security bebefits PLEASE HELP WITH THIS QUESTION

sclark38731 — 2013-03-09 04:34:31Z

He was born in Mississippi. Were would i be able to search the ww1 Regidtration. I dont know if he was in the WW1 or not. Would all men back then was made to registered.

Re: death info

LHSwisher — 2013-03-09 04:27:23Z

Have you checked out http://search.ancestry.com/search/db.aspx?dbid=3693 and read the info about the SSDI, and also checked the SSDI FAQs (mentioned at the right side of that page)?

Re: Social Security bebefits PLEASE HELP WITH THIS QUESTION

LHSwisher — 2013-03-09 04:26:18Z

I believe they had to give some kind of proof - an application for life insurance on which DOB was stated; a census record; a delayed birth certificate (I think many people filed delayed birth certificates for SS purposes. They're often not kept with the regular birth certificates.

Might your grandfather's DOB appear on a World War I draft record, if he was in the US by that time?

Social Security bebefits PLEASE HELP WITH THIS QUESTION

sclark38731 — 2013-03-07 19:30:38Z

I wanted to know if anyone knows if they wasable to get Social security benefits without a birth records in 1960. the reason is that My grandfather was born in 1897 or 1903 and i want to order a copy of the birth records. Just wanted to know if he would have a birth records if he received social security benefits. Please response ASAP

Re: death info

sclark38731 — 2013-03-07 18:28:10Z

sometime that information is not loaded unless they were reieving some type of benefit. My Grandmother pass away in 1985 and i never found her information but i did sent for her ss-5. She did have a social sercuity numbers. I think everyone that have a ss# numbers suppose to be added when they pass away.

death info

wiccacelt79 — 2013-03-05 01:29:58Z

A family member recently died but SSI does not show anything on them. When does a death get reported or how long does it take for SSI to be updated with their info?

Re: SSDI

LHSwisher — 2013-02-26 04:38:38Z

Those in the SSDI usually date from the early to mid-1960s, to the present. There are some exceptions, but perhaps she died a little too early to make the index?

Re: SSDI

nicolelacko — 2013-02-25 06:42:09Z

This is what I'm getting:

Matches 1–20 of 11,768,115 Sorted By Relevance

Re: SSDI

nicolelacko — 2013-02-25 06:12:25Z

tried both ideas...with the second, got this result,

Matches 1–20 of 17,811 Sorted By Relevance

Re: SSDI

nicolelacko — 2013-02-25 06:08:44Z

Thanks for the suggestions. I do not have a birthdate for her, but do have maiden and married names. She died in 1961 and was employed from the 1920's until her death. Perhaps she never received benefits?

Re: SSDI

LHSwisher — 2013-02-25 05:49:45Z

Also try a search under last name and just the month/year, or just the year.

By the way, when did this person die?

Re: SSDI

LHSwisher — 2013-02-25 05:49:19Z

Also try a search under last name and just the month/year, or just the year.

Re: SSDI

AGHatchett3rd — 2013-02-24 05:28:11Z

Have you tried putting the SS# in the keyword field marked exact with no other info on the search form?

Re: SSDI

barbdale_1 — 2013-02-23 20:30:09Z

You also need to know that all people are not in the SSDI, if their death was not reported to social security. This is especially true if the person was not yet collecting social security when they died. Here is a good site to search by first name and birthdate, if you don't know a woman's married name.
http://ssdmf.info/

Re: SSDI

nanablue2007 — 2013-02-23 19:42:51Z

try using "old search" if you aren't already.
you will prob get less hits
http://search.ancestry.com/oldsearch

on the SSDI
just fill in the state and dod
http://search.ancestry.com/search/db.aspx?dbid=3693

SSDI

nicolelacko — 2013-02-23 17:49:38Z

Is there a way to search by SS# and date of death? I have both of these and can't locate my relative when I include her name. Without the name included I am getting 18000+ hits for the date and specific SS#

Re: the 2 middle numbers in SS#

LHSwisher — 2013-02-18 00:51:00Z

Or perhaps you are referring to when one dies and the estate must obtain an Employer ID # rather than using the deceased's SSN? I think that is an IRS matter, rather than an SSN matter.

Re: the 2 middle numbers in SS#

LHSwisher — 2013-02-18 00:48:21Z

I'm not sure what you are asking or assuming about the middle numbers. As far as I know, the first and middle set of numbers relate to where you lived when you applied for the #.

See Steve Morse's "One Step" site re SSN:
"Decoding Social Security Numbers in One Step(for numbers issued prior to June 25, 2011)"
http://stevemorse.org/ssn/ssn.html

the 2 middle numbers in SS#

wzfulton — 2013-02-16 19:51:39Z

Death makes no sense as it applies to a social security number, since how can they assign a new ss# to a dead person? The middle two numbers in my SS# are 72, and I am very much alive! My sister has the same 72 in the middle of hers.......there is a better answer somewhere. I don't know what it is, but I know what it is not and the middle numbers are assigned upon birth now.

Re: Numident is worthless

rdown478 — 2012-12-27 22:58:52Z

Thank u for this information, I would have gone the 16 dollar route too if it were not for not knowing the difference. Than u again...Bob

Re: How do I use the SSDI to find US ancestors?

LHSwisher — 2012-11-27 05:30:37Z

You would enter their name and date of birth, if known; also state of birth, if known. That would pull up a list of possibilities showing at least the month and year of death; where their Social Security Number was issued (often, but not always, the state where they were born); and the geographic location where their last benefits were payable (usually, but not always, where they were living when they died). Then you would search additional records (birth, death or marriage) to find family data that may confirm that is the person you seek. Keep in mind that the SSDI usually only goes back as far as the early 1960s, and does not include everyone who died. (Check the "About Social Security Death Index" notes below the search box to see details of what you may find, and what to do with it.)

Re: Social Security Death Index Search

neptuneklm — 2012-11-25 22:35:19Z

thanks, but i did have the obit. at this point i am not sure where to go in my search for his parents. if you have any thoughts, let me know. i wish it would have mentioned parents or siblings in the obit, back to the search.

Re: Social Security Death Index Search

barbdale_1 — 2012-11-24 19:10:45Z

Here is his obit, if you don't have it
Charleston Gazette, February 22, 1940, Page 6
James Franklin McCoy

James Franklin McCoy, 84, died last night at his home at Cannelton after a long illness. His body was removed to the B C Hooper Mortuary at Montgomery.
Surviving are his wife, Mrs. Anna Mae McCoy; four sons, S.A. McCoy, South Charleston, O; J.W. McCoy, Charleston; R.P. and C.O. McCoy of Cannelton; a daughter, Mrs. Cora Harris of Buffalo.

Re: Social Security Death Index Search

barbdale_1 — 2012-11-24 18:18:27Z

You can request a lookup from social security, usually the catch is if you can't prove someone has died, but you do have his death certificate. It costs around 29.00 and they won't refund it if they don't find it. It also depends if he was working age when social security came into being, the early 1930's.
I just looked at his death certificate online. It says he was 84, so it is very doubtful he applied for social security.
I will keep looking around and see what I can find. What was his wife's name?

Re: Social Security Death Index Search

neptuneklm — 2012-11-24 14:05:02Z

James Franklin McCoy died February 21, 1940, Cannelton, Fayette County, West Virginia. I do already have his death cert, but was hoping if he had a social security number that I could find out who his parents were. I am currently stuck on him (I do have parents listed, but cannot prove if they are correct) as I do not know for sure what state he was born in because it varies between different census/other records from Ohio to W Virginia. I don't know if he even had a SSN or not, but was hoping if he did that his parents would be listed on the application (if that is something I can even look up if he had one). thanks

How do I use the SSDI to find US ancestors?

janeoz123 — 2012-11-24 00:52:43Z

I am trying to find US distant cousins of mine with the names Sheehan & Ryan, but only know their date of birth. How doI use the SSDI and info contained therein to find these people?
Thanks.
Jane Cleary
Australia

Re: Social Security Death Index Search

barbdale_1 — 2012-11-23 19:51:21Z

What state and exact date are you looking for - If we have a name, we may be able to point you to another source.

Re: Social Security Death Index Search

thomasker2 — 2012-11-23 16:50:40Z

I’m not related to any member of this family.

Order the death cert. directly from the county clerks
office. Parents names + birthplaces should be stated.

Try this site for death records – FREE SITE
Social Security Death Index = FREE, Searchable = ALL STATES
• * * * * This index features individuals who died after 1960. * * * * * *
• The Social Security Administration does not have information about people who died before about 1940 when Social Security payments were first paid out. The SSDI has very few entries for people who died from 1940-1961.

Social Security Death Index Search

neptuneklm — 2012-11-23 13:14:39Z

i have read that the social security death index has some records as early as 1937 but they are just not in the database. is there someone to contact to look for a death record from 1940?

Re: Social Security number

1_huntingtonm — 2012-09-14 05:26:25Z

Sorry about that... I am looking for Almond Couturier, Duval county Florida.

Re: Social Security number

LHSwisher — 2012-09-14 02:12:25Z

If you want someone to be able to assist you, you're going to have to post their name and where Duval County is. Right now we don't know who you're looking for, or where.

Re: Social Security number

1_huntingtonm — 2012-09-13 06:37:40Z

Thanks for your response. I don't have any other information about this man except that my grandmother's name is on the record of the divorce. This record is a page from what seems to be a record of divorces in Duval county for a certain period of time. My grandmother won't talk about this issue, so there is no way to get any better documentation from this end.

Re: Social Security number

LHSwisher — 2012-09-13 02:24:13Z

Maybe it depends on where the divorce was filed, but I haven't heard of a SSN being on a divorce decree.

Are both men in the Social Security Death Index? Which man has the same date of birth as your grandfather? His DOB MIGHT be on the marriage license or church records.

Social Security number

1_huntingtonm — 2012-09-12 10:44:46Z

I am trying to track down my mother's father who divorced my grandmother before my mother was born. My grandmother cut all ties with him and all I can verify is a divorce record (not the actual document- haven't been able to get that on Ancestry.com). I have also found another person with this same name on Ancestry.com but I cannot link the two for sure unless I can get a social security number for the man on the divorce record. Does anyone know if the divorce certificate (or whatever would be on file at the court house) would have this information? The court house seems to have only a limited number of files available, but I'm considering paying to try to get the divorce cert. but don't want to waste my money if the SSN is not on there.

Thanks a million for any information you can give me.

Re: Non-citizens and SS

skvesta — 2012-09-04 21:06:39Z

ssn weren't issued until the late 50's early 60's. I doubt that your ancestor had one.