Polish Nobility - Family History & Genealogy Message Board

trembowla

nick — 15 Jul 2005 1:03:04 GMT

If anyone has experience with or knows of any genealogists in the Trembowla/Tarnopl area, i would be most greatful for an e-mail. someone with experience with Austro-Hun archives would also be great!

Looking for info on MODZELEWSKI family

Bianca Modzelewska — 20 May 2005 4:08:38 GMT

So far I know that in 1402 Mikołaj Modzele was given land. Hi named the village that he created Modzele and took the last name Modzelewski. I also know that this family has 6 coat of arms. Does anybody else have more info?

Looking for any info on Szady-Bey family/last name

auversoi — 7 Sep 2008 8:38:10 GMT

could be spelled Szade-Bey or other way possibly. It was my grandfathers last name. He came from Czernelica or Chernelitsa. He was imprisoned by the N.K.W.D. in 1939.

Mazeppa Razumowski

AntonioEcharri — 2 Sep 2008 4:38:15 GMT

Concerning my second posting today, you can find also the word Mazepa instead of Mazeppa, either for the assasinated woman journalist born in New York from ukrainian Soviet diplomats only described as Ana Polikovtskaya or the Mazepa "hetman" from Ukrainia who at the beginnings of the XVIII Centyry "trahisoned" Russian Tsar Peter Ist.

Ivan Stepanovych Mazepa (Ukrainian: Іван Степанович Мазепа historically spelled as Mazeppa; 20 March 1639—2 October 1709), Cossack Hetman of the Hetmanate in Left-bank Ukraine, in 1687–1708, can be found under the Google searches in English for the word "Mazepa" of the well known http://www.wiki.org.

Music Composer Franz Liszt wrote music around the dream involved with such important person.

At the end of the XVIII Century, Tsarine Catherine II of Russia and many European western powers Foreign Affairs Chancilleries used the name "Mazepa Razumowski" or "Mazeppa Razumowski", (with two p instead of one p), to describe this (perhaps) Ukrainian - Polish - Russian family linked to important diplomatic activities on behalf of the ever-expanding Russian Empire.

Prince Leon Bogun Mazeppa Razumowski

saqqal — 13 Jul 2006 2:53:59 GMT

I am a writer researching this individual who came to the USA in 1907 after a failed assassination attempt on his life that year. He took the name Jacob Makohin and joined the US Marines in 1907. He served with distinction under that name and retired. He died and was buried in Arlington National Cemetery. Looking for pictures and biographical info. Please indicate if he was a Polish or a Russian noble. Can you help?

Lubomviski-Lubomurski

Heather Schenck — 3 Feb 2005 3:02:34 GMT

I have an Xavier L.,his daughter born 1878 in England....Family story is he was a prince.....What would be the best route to follow this trail??

Any ideas or tips would be GREATLY appreciated.

Heather, Canada

Jonkajtys, Jankajtys, Jonkaitis, Yonkaitis, Jonkaytys...

dorotajonkajtys — 19 Dec 2007 12:09:26 GMT

Hello,
I am searching for someone who can help me complete our family tree. We have a gap we are trying to fill between the 15th and 19th century if any one of you have any leads.
This is what we got from one of my ancestors Kazimierz Jonkaitis in Kowno in 1938-39 (translated from Lithuanian):
"In the 14th century, in the time of Prince Witold, Migas Jonkaitis was a majordomo in Prince Witold court. He had two sons: Grzegosz (George) & Jakub (Jacob), and they where christians.
We are from Jakub's lineage, Grzegosz lived in Szatlej."

We also know that Migas and Jakub lived in Sascu (Szaczku) in Zmudzi.

I will post more information about my family tree, hopefully in the near future.
Thank you,
Dorota Jonkajtys

WIENIAWICI / WIELOWIEYSKI / WIELOWIEJSKI

roblyn1941 — 29 Apr 2007 7:59:11 GMT

Hello,
I was wondering if someone could help me.

I am seeking information about the surname (old spelling) WIELOWIEYSKI / (new spelling) WIELOWIEJSKI. In about the 10 century the name may have been spelled Wieniawici.

I have been told the surname Wielowiejski is a rare, old name that comes from nobility and is very important in Polish history.

For Wielowiejski, I have found 2 coat of arms, Polkzic and Poraj. In the "Orderu Vertuti Militari" 1792 I found a Wielowiejski.

I am curious as to how and why the surname is important in the history of Poland. I would also like to know more about the surname Wielowiejski and it's relationship to the 2 Coat of Arms & Orderu Vertuti Militari.

Thank you in advance
AJ

Surname - Kaszyc

John Kaszyc — 23 Nov 2006 12:08:30 GMT

Any information regarding the surname Kaszyc would be appreciated. My grandfather Cyprian Kaszyc left Poland in 1913. He claimed descent from Polish nobility. Any information regarding the legitimacy of this claim would be appreciated. Thank you.

Cielecki's h.Zaremba , also Clementi or Klementi/iew

Helena Tarnowska — 6 Jan 2003 10:36:44 GMT

For a long time we've been looking for any family named
Cielecki. The family had propert near Kowno, Eastern Poland
before the II WW.
Any information will be helpful.
Witold Cielecki was the owner of property.

Also has anybody seen the name Clementi, my grandfather was
a captain in the Russian army before the I WW.
The name could've been taken from the Italian languaga
and could've sounded Clementi.I am not sure. It's either
Klementi, Klementiew or Clementi.
I will be grateful for any help.
H.Tarnowska
Canada

Family Habilewicz

Stefano Angeletti — 1 Aug 2005 9:27:35 GMT

I would like some informations about the Family of my gran-gran mother: Helena Habilewicz Thanks

Choromanski (Polish nobility entitled to coat-of-arms Jastrzebiez)

Jurgita — 8 Sep 2005 1:06:11 GMT

Hello,

I am looking for my great grandfather's roots who must have come from Poland, probably or possibly from Choromany town around 1800.
All I know is that my great grandfather was Boleslaw (Boleslovas) Choromanski (Choromanskis) who moved to Lithuania (Litva) in late 19th century and married Bronislawa Tomasauskaite (Tomasczewich).
Would appreciate any help.

Jasienczyk

denisejas — 2 Aug 2006 11:57:35 GMT

I am just starting to research our family history (family name Jasienczyk) . My Grandfather immigrated to Canada in the 1920s from Poland with the last name Jasienczyk. We cannot find any (unknown relatives) in North America with this name - at least with this spelling.

I have a limited understanding about the Coat of Arms and how it works, however, it seems that families with the "Jasienczyk" Coat of Arms have a different last name. Can anyone provide any insight into this - is it possible that this was not the original family name? Is it possible to have the same surname as the familiy Code of Arms? .

Thanks for any insight (and education) you can provide !

trying to find relatives

slava2002 — 11 Jul 2006 9:21:05 GMT

This is my story. It is not complete but it will help somehow.
My grand grand father Mikolaj Cebrowski(born abt 1878 - died in 1918) and his wife Marta Zarubicka(born abt 1880 -died in 1963). They resided in village Kyjdantsy Ternopil region in Ukraine. This territory before 1939 belonged to Poland, to Austro-Hungarian Empire. My grand grand father is the offspring of the noble family Cebrowski. The family was brought to ruin in the 18th century. And my grand grand father worked on the land.
My grand grand parents had, as I know, 7 children. They were Jan, Boleslaw, Bronislaw, Jakob, Stefania, Marta and Wladyslaw.
Jan Cebrowski(born in 1896 - died in 1982) was my grand father. In 1914 he was called up for the military service on the side of Austro-Hungerian Empire. He was taken prisoner in Russia and remained in Russia. Then he studied in Kiev in Art Institute but didn`t graduate it. He graduated from Kiev medical institute and worked as a doctor.
When the 2 world war started he happened to be in partisan group where he was a doctor. Then he got into the detachment of Wojsko Polske which was organised on the territory of the Soviet Union. He served in the tank regiment as the head of medical department. He finished war in 1946.
This is the information which may seem familiar to somebody.
His younger brother and sister Marta and Wladyslaw immigrated to Germany and now their offsprings reside in France Obernai near Strasbourg.
And one more, Jan cebrowski`s cousin Mikolaj Kychiwka immigrated to Argentina before 1939.

Mackiewicz

magabaker — 10 Aug 2005 3:30:37 GMT

Hello, Am looking for information about the family Mackiewicz which came from the village of Summe, Poland. Supposedly this family was of Russ./Polish nobility. A son, Anton, came to the US in 1894. He settled in Ironwood, MI. His death certificate states his father as Julian Mackiewicz and his mother as Helen Zareba.
We know that Summe is now called Sumowo and is in the province of Kujawsko-Pomorskie, Poland today.
His declaration of intention papers state that he was a subject of the Czar of Russia, which would have been Alexander III or Nicholas II.
Any information would be helpful.
Thank you,
Margie

SYRUNOWICZ / SIEMIONOWICZ

azprincess — 1 May 2003 8:14:04 GMT

My gr-gr-grandparents JOSEPH STANALAW CASPERON SYRUNOWICZ and BENIGNA STANISLAWUNA SIEMIONOWICZ were born of noble families in Russia. However they owned a large parcel of land in Lithuania, Kielmy, called "Goniprowo". It is believed the land was a gift from Peter the Great.My gr-grandmother always insisted that she was Polish, though American records show her to have been born in Russia. I do believe some of her siblings were born in Poland however.

If anyone has any information on these families (or ther non-American descendants) in Lithuania, Poland, or Russia, it would be greatly appreciated. Please email me at jen.merkel@cox.net.

Thank you!

Syrunowicz family

Olga — 28 Jan 2006 8:31:23 GMT

My father Wieslaw Syrunowicz was born in 1929 in Lithuanian Kowno but his nationality was Polish. My grandfather Witold Syrunowicz was a Polish teacher in Kowno. I have a family tree of the Syrunowiczes and the coat of arms of my Syrunowicz ancestors.

Chuderski

tomchuderski1945 — 24 Nov 2005 1:00:37 GMT

Hi
Some time ago, and I wrote it down and don't remember where I got it, I came across my last name with the following information.
"Legitimated in Trembowla (Tarnopop District) - 1787" It then went on to say..."CHUDERSKI also known as CHUDOWSKI
Arms unknown, recorded 1731; from the district of L/e~czycz."
Can someone please help me out with this? I have no idea what it all means?

Solving the noble riddle

pam Ruddy — 11 Feb 2004 11:08:34 GMT

I am trying to fill in the blanks of my family tree. We have one that dates back to 1564, however I am having no luck find anything out about my family crest, our noble state, estates and locations and so on. If you can help solve this puzzle it would be great. The Polish name is JANKIEWICZ
and are listed as boarder judges and barons.

thanks
Pam Ruddy

Daszewski Signet Ring Discrepancy

Avery Jones — 14 Sep 2005 2:07:15 GMT

From the Polska Encyklopedia Szlachecka, Volume 3, page 118, one gets a colorful description of the Daszewski shield which happens to be partitioned into quarters.

My Daszewski signet ring agrees totally with this description except for the fourth quarter. The official description states that the fourth quarter (Litewski Arms) displays an armored knight on horseback. Instead my fourth quarter has a rather dashing figure with his feet planted squarely on the ground -- shield against his breast in his left hand and a sword pointing downwards in his right hand.

Would there be any reason my signet ring is slightly different from the official description? Is a Litewski variation? Is it instead an image of the Ruthenian Archangel Michael?

I will try and attach a JPG image of the ring's shield -- hoping it will help sort out my confusion. Many thanks.

SYMON WILICHOWSKI

Amber_Zietlow — 8 Dec 2004 12:49:14 GMT

I am looking from information about my gr. gr.gr. grandfather, SYMON WILICHOWSKI. I know that he was born in Wolwark Poland and that he died on 27 February 1869. arounf the year 1830 he was either knighted or given a title of somesort for deed performed for the "king and country". I know that in Poland during the 1830's that there was a war of sorts in Poland with Russia. How ever at a later time for a reason unknown to any of the family Symon sold the title. Symon was married to Magdaline Szulc. Their children were Joseph (18 Mar 1853 Poland- 1935 in Wisconsin), Kanstancia Wilichowski, Marcin Wilichowski, Valentine Wilickowski (Feb 1863- ?). Symon died when Joseph was only 16 years old. Little did Symon know that after his death that his sons would live under the rule of a squire.

Does anyone know why Symon would have recieved the title and/or why he would have sold it?

Thank you
Amber

TANSKY? Possible noble ancestors

Bob LeChevalier — 13 Mar 2005 5:31:11 GMT

Researching the Jewish TANSKY family which was in Nikolayev, Ukraine in the 1880-1920 timeframe, I've run across a family story that the Tansky family was mixed blood (married non-Jews), had originated in Poland, and that an ancestor a few generations back had been a Count. This seems just odd enough that I wouldn't expect that the story would have been passed on if there was no truth to it. On the other hand, the rarity of the title "Count" in Poland suggests that they weren't Polish nobility, but perhaps gained (and lost) the title after the partition of Poland.

Unfortunately the earliest that we've traced the Nikolayev clan of Tanskys are to two men who would likely have been born in the 1840-1860 timeframe. Their spouses seem to have had surnames Jenin and Simon. One was apparently in the service of the Tsar at some point. We've been uncertain how to trace them any further back.

Are there any records of Polish nobles marrying into Jewish families or converting to Judaism? Are there any other elements of this tale that suggest avenues of research?

Any advice appreciated.

de RACHEWILTZ nobility

S. Runyon — 23 Dec 2004 5:48:52 GMT

Seeking information on de RACHEWILTZ nobility, said to have been "German Russian". Prince Boris de RACHEWILTZ was a well regarded Egyptologist living in the Italian Tirol in the 1950's. Where does this family originate from?

de Braunhelder and Russian/Polish Counts?

apadilla11 — 26 Jan 2005 11:01:04 GMT

Hi

My great grandfather (harold Brown 1880-1929) was rumoured to be descended from a Russian Count. I have indentified his grandfather, Alexander de Braunhelder who moved from Poland to Liverpool (England) in the mid 1800s. Does anyone know anything about this name, if it is indeed a noble one, and where I can find out more about Russian/Polish nobility.

sobolewski family from rubiezewicze.

stephen sobolewski — 26 Nov 2004 8:24:24 GMT

i have just recently found out my family the sobolewskis from rubiezewicze,were Polska szlachta zas'ciankowa.i have been trying for the past 4 years to trace my family without success,hope someone recognises the name.

Need Information!

Mandy — 31 Aug 2004 8:09:51 GMT

Does anyone know anything about the Szczurek(Shurak) or Robotka, lineage. I Know their polish and that is it.

HOLYNSKI h. Klamry - Researching this noble family

T.F. Boettger — 9 Jan 2003 3:48:20 GMT

HOLYNSKI h. Klamry - Researching this noble family

Author: T.F. Boettger

Date: 9 Jan 2003 3:22 PM GMT

Surnames: HOLYNSKI, TOLSTOY, SHAKHOVSKOY, KOMAR, GALEN-BISPING, LUBOMIRSKI, MESHCHERSKY
(MESZCZERSKI), DRUCKI-SOKOLINSKI, DIAKOV, BRANICKI, SKALON, DLUSZCZ-SOBANSKI

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I am looking for descendants of the Holynski h. Klamry family as part of my research for my books on the descendants of the 1st Prince Bariatinsky http://www.geocities.com/tfboettger/bariatinsky and another that I am writing about the Russian ladies who married into the European nobility from 1727-1918 http://www.geocities.com/tfboettger/rnl/

Note: Other Polish noble families I am researching can be found at: http://www.geocities.com/tfboettger/bariatinsky/surnameindex...

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Baron Joseph Theodore Peter Von Niemczyk 1832-1911???????

Robert George Niemczyk — 10 Mar 2004 5:52:03 GMT

I AM THE 3RD GREAT GRANDAUGHTER OF JOSEPH NIEMCZYK, HE WAS BORN IN LIPSCHNITZ, POLAND, 1832-1911. HE MARRIED MARY PAULINE HOFFMANN, 1839-1907, BORN BRESLAN GERMANY, MARRIED THERE ALSO. THEY LIVED IN LONDON, NY, CINN., AND SETTLED IN TELL CITY, INDIANA. THEY HAVE 4 CHILDREN, JOSEPH FRANCIS ,NY 1867-1936, THEODORE JOSEPH, PRUSSIA ,1872-1942, GEORGE PETER TELL CITY 1876-1934, MARY, TELL CITY, 1879-?. HOFFMANNS PARENTS WERE GOTLIEB HOFFMANN CHARLOTTE. PLEASE EMAIL ME!!! metallicarockok@aol.com FRANCES LOUISE

Nobility of Slaskie region

katja — 16 Feb 2004 2:31:57 GMT

I would like to have a list of the polish noble families, who had an estate in the region Slaskie, especially around Katowice. I don't remember the exact name of the family, that I am looking for, so I hope to recognize it from the list of the nobles, leaving in this region.

Nobile and Royal households of Poland

Irenka Tarko Sborowski — 4 Feb 2004 11:50:08 GMT

My parents were first generation of immigrants to start a new family in America. My father is from Germany, and my mother is from Poland. My mother's family is from the territory which wasoance part of Germany, and I believe also part of Russia(I am not sure), but I am trying to find relatives, and family trees of Tarko and Sborowski....
She is now 83 yrs. old, and lives in Texas. She still has one brother in Poland, but lives with my younger brother now.
she has 4 children who were born in USA. Ihave never been to Poland, but have traveled to London, and also to Germany, and Italy, and been to France and Belgium one time.

Romanski reprise

michad03 — 29 Jan 2004 1:56:46 GMT

I wrote earlier regarding my wife's family, the Romanski's, supposedly of Polish noble origins. I have more information on her grandfather. he was Maciej Antoni Romanski, born 1909 in Brzezany, Poland, which I think is today Berezhany, Ukraine. His wife was Helena Romanski (nee Gadzinowski). My wife's family remembers their family as having been Polish nobility with a coat of arms called something like Slcpowron (I can't quite read the writing, so I am not sure of the spelling). We know a fair amount about Maciej's life--he was in the Polish army in 1939 and was captured by the Germans, was liberated and moved to England then America. But we know nothing of the family or of its supposed noble lineage before Maciej and Helena.

Does anyone know of a noble Polish family that this might connect to? Or, for that matter, a non-noble family that this might connect to?

Romanski Family

chaos333 — 29 Jun 2006 12:13:31 GMT

My wife's father (Jacek) was a member of the Romanski family of Poland. Family legend has it that this was part of the nobility of Poland and my wife's grandfather was an officer in the Polish military in 1939 and was captured by the Germans. Does anyone have any information about the Romanski family in general (I assume if they are nobility there would be some records about them). If anyone is related to Romanskis I can also get more information about the given names that are known for comparison. I appreciate any help you can give.

deTurczynowicz family of Suwalki

Edie — 7 Aug 2003 7:57:31 GMT

Hi - I'm looking for any information on the DeTurczynowicz family from Suwalki. Laura (nee Blackwell) DeTurczynowicz, a former opera singer, met her husband the count who was a professor of Latin at Krakow (sp.) University. Laura wrote the book "When the Prussians came to Poland" of her experiences during the German invasion of Poland. She fled Poland with her three children to United States and then held various operatic related positions in Canada and then finally returning to California where she died in 1953. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Mauricio and Dora Wittlin

Michael M. Sharon — 7 Aug 2003 2:55:20 GMT

I am looking for details about Mauricio Wittlin who was a large scale landowner and farmer of a jewish origin from Galicia, before the German Invasion to Poland in 1939.
He implemented novel agricultural technologies and owned 2 villages. Died of cancer in 1938. After the war started we heard no more of his wife Dora and their children who stayed in Poland (and had not immigrated to Palestine).

Looking for ancestors

tmurphythompson — 18 Sep 2003 5:07:14 GMT

Does anyone have any information regarding the following persons. Supposedly they were "lesser" Nobility.

Joseph Darascz, held a position of a sheriff Married
Katerina Demenska
Had many children, my grandmother was one of them.
Her name was Pauline (Lena) . We believe they were lesser nobility because my Grandmother stated she was educated in a Convent and could read and write polish and Russian.
She also spoke 2 other languages fluently.

She left for America around 1910 to 1912

She married John Mazorowicz in 1915.
Any information would be wonderful.

How to post to a Usenet newsgroup using Google

Yvonne — 8 Oct 2002 5:17:51 GMT

-- Previous Message --
>How does one access his Usenet newsgroup?

Do you mean alt.talk.royalty? If so, this isn't anyone's newsgroup (I don't think anyone owns a newsgroup), but the fellow I mentioned, Rafal Heydel-Mankoo, is just one of the members who posts in a.t.r. Rafal is very knowledgable about Polish aristocratic families, so I suspect he will be able to offer some help.

For more information about posting to a.t.r. using Google, see "Frequently Asked Questions About Posting" at http://groups.google.com/googlegroups/posting_faq.html

Radziwill Palace at Antonin, Poland

NANCYNEELY — 5 Oct 2002 10:09:31 GMT

Does anyone know WHICH Radziwill family line, presuming that that was the family in residence, would have been living in the Palace at Antonin between 1910 and 1940 ??

This questions is related to the other question appearing on the Polish Nobility page regarding the following surnames:
Onyszkiewicz - Jacyna - Baranowska - Tang

Onyszkiewicz / Jacyna / deLizy / Tarnowski

NANCYNEELY — 29 Sep 2002 1:36:46 GMT

Grandfather - deceased

Zigmund Pszonka — 22 Jun 2000 9:32:39 GMT

Zigmund was married to Mary. They fled Poland during the war. Supposidly when they fled Zigmund was of noble heritage. Details are incomplete since everyone is deceased.